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What's your most unpopular opinion about music ? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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For me : Trippie Redd's "!" Is actually a great album

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I had to google whether this is some idiom unknown to me, or if you're mocking me, or what it really is. I'm no philosopher, but at one point it's not the same ship for me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh, not mocking you. It's just a semi famous Greek thing about when changing the parts of a thing changes the thing. It's hard to draw clear lines about it.

Especially in the case where you take the parts off the original ship one at a time and replace them, while reassembling them somewhere else. Now you have two ships and it's unclear which is the "original"

It applies somewhat well to a band changing members, but I guess if your band is only like 3 people it's less fuzzy. A symphony of 100 people that changes one member every year, though, would be harder to call.

For anyone else who doesn't know: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_of_Theseus

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah. I was thinking like the usual 4 piece rock band. You switch one member and it's ok. Let's say next year one member dies, so he's replaced. Still ok. But when there's ultimately nobody from the original lineup, it's just not the same band for me. On paper it is, but for me it's just milking the name...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

when there's ultimately nobody from the original lineup, it's just not the same band for me

I agree in general, but I think longevity comes into it too.

If the band lost a couple of members early on, but replaced them, then had decades of success and eventually replaced the remaining originals, you still have the early replacements there, who were involved for most of their career.

It would seem harsh to say it's not the same band just because none of the original members are there.