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Both the president and his reelection campaign are going after his coup-attempting predecessor even before the first GOP primary ballots are cast.

A full year out from the 2024 presidential election and nearly two months before Republicans cast their first primary ballots, President Joe Biden and his campaign are assuming that Donald Trump will be his opponent and have already started reminding voters why they threw him out of office in the first place.

Biden personally has stepped up criticism of his coup-attempting predecessor and is framing the likely rematch as one that will determine the survival of American democracy.

“The same man who said we should terminate the rules and regulations and articles of the Constitution — these are things he said — is now running on a plan to end democracy as we know it,” he said last week at a fundraiser in Chicago.

“This next election is different. It’s more important. There’s more at stake. And we all know why: Because our very democracy is at stake,” he told a San Francisco audience on Wednesday.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Think Trump would have had a better response?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

No. Lose/lose situation no matter who wins.

But! Do you think Democrats would support Israel's genocide if Trump was president? I doubt it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But! Do you think Democrats would support Israel’s genocide if Trump was president? I doubt it.

What the fuck do you think the Dems have been doing since the 80s? Through every Republican presidency?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think Dems opposed Trump moving the embassy to Jerusalem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, and so were the GOP before Trump. That's not a "Well, the Dems decided to oppose the move because it was a Republican president!" moment, it's a "The Dems are the conservative party and the GOP is the fascist party" moment.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why the best move is for Democrats to control the House and Senate, and that's why I'm voting down ticket for Democrats.

I don't care about why Democrats oppose Trump, I just know that they will. Or do you think that Bernie Sanders would refuse to call for a ceasefire if Trump was President, like what he's doing right now under Biden?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t care about why Democrats oppose Trump, I just know that they will.

"This is the history of the matter. That's literally not how it works, and you're confusing the opposition of one policy with some idea of complete contrarianism that flies in the face of how the Democratic Party has operated, not only over the past 30 years in general, but also under Trump in particular."

"I don't know WHY they'll do it, but they WILL"

Okay, buddy, have fun with that.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Opposition to one policy is more than opposition to literally nothing.

All I know is the norms went out the window under Trump. I'm willing to bet it'll be even worse in his second term and Democrats will revolt.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except the choice is between Hitler and Pinochet so...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except the choice is between Hitler and Pinochet so…

Putting aside that Biden is not even close to Pinochet...

That's not even a fucking choice.

If your thinking is that "30 million dead, millions raped, a continent in ruins, a genocide campaign so horrible that it has become a byword for atrocity, regime only overthrown by a literal world war", is better than or equal to "Thousands dead, tens of thousands tortured, regime eventually overthrown by democratic means", you're beyond fucking help.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My point is if our only two choices are genocide lite and genocide deluxe, the American experiment is a failure and we have to start over. I will not vote for genocide again. I'd rather kill myself, I fucking deserve it for voting for this demon the first time.

(also I just can't spell Mousillini)