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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Maybe like a subscription where people could pay a fee to avoid ads?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

The trouble with YT Premium is how much they’re charging for it.

We used a VPN to get Ukrainian family YTP for a fraction of the price they charge here in the UK. We pay something like £4 a month now for both of our accounts. That would be the better part of £20 a month if we’d done it legit. Fuck that noise.

Sure, it comes with YT Music, but I’ve literally never used that. I have Apple Music and an iPod. So £20 a month JUST TO REMOVE ADS.

Nah, fuck ‘em.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That is absolutely a solution. But what I’m talking about is a way to monetize while keeping the service free but without showing ads.

This is the billion dollar idea. If not trillion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

There is no such thing as a free service.

People need to eat, bills need to be paid, shelter needs to be provided and unless people can have these at no expense and create things for pure passion & share for others to enjoy then they need the means to pay for these things.

The internet has whittled this down to a few basic models:

  • Pay the service directly for the content (subscriptions or 1 time purchases)
  • 'Free' content and they serve you ads which they are paid for by companies trying to sell something to you
  • 'Free' content and they sell every bit of data they can scrape from you to companies which are again, trying to sell something to you.

If you could find a way to do anything without having to pay for our human needs then would it be a trillion dollar idea or would money be meaningless now when people wouldnt need it to live & enjoy their lives?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I pay for YouTube and use FreeTube and NewPipe. I try to pay for whatever services I use. I think this is the way, either pay or let the ads play. I do this because the YouTube app is trash for many reasons mostly having to do with trying to funnel me to the money making bits.

There are greedy corporations making the user experience worse and doing everything they can to wring every penny they can. Ultimately, I attribute this to the wall street investor model. A company can be making money and still be losing because their revenues shrank from the prior quarter. That is a broken system that will only eat itself. That being said, people gotta eat and that includes the janitors, etc.. at Google.

Point is, its a mixed bag. There are people on the other end making the product you are using, AND there is a soul sucking company making it worse for both their customers and their workers/creators. To be clear, there is something to be said about how poorly Google supports their creators. In many ways, they are taking advantage of the creators that use their platform. How is it that Google is making so much money in ads, but creators have to open Patreons?

I still don't think we should just expect stuff for free.

Tangentially, I need to be better about helping support the open source projects I use, especially the smaller maintainers, to be honest, but I do send to a few and I encourage everyone to do so as well as much as they can.

edit: Grammar

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

There is no such thing as a free service.

But there is such a thing as a monopoly.

Where are the youtube competitors that keep prices competitive?