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Selfhosted messenger/community software like discord (lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz)

submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hello, I would like to hear your opinions about a good selfhosted messenger like discord.

To list exactly what I mean by that is:

No need for federation ( only will be used by friends )
E2EE
Support for direct messages
Support for discord like server management by which I mean the ability to set rooms and topics for such rooms.

From what I know, this seems to be more similar to slack alternative's but wanted to hear opinions of others.

I have been thinking about either matrix, mattermost, rocket.chat or revolt chat.

I already have a XMPP server, but setting up encryption and client's has turned away quite a few people I would like to get onto this platform.

EDIT: As pointed by other people E2EE isn't needed for my usecase if no federation.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Pretty bad experience with matrix here. Many users have issues with decrypting messages or having some conversations unable to open. Sometimes we have to disable the encryption, and in some case it don't work either. In all cases, we couldn't find too old messages. Usually you have to balance between safety and archives; both are unreliable. Migrating a community to a specific protocol is not something you could repeat a lot.

I don't know if it's related with the servers, or with the protocol itself. I suspect that things get ugly when your conversations are too big, but it could be the latency between servers, or lack of ressources from server side. If so, you have consider to selfhost a matrix server, or to consider it as not federated, and use the server matrix.org like everyone (which seems to work fine).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

use the server matrix.org like everyone (which seems to work fine).

Suggesting to use matrix.org as "everyone" uses it ? There are other choices instead of making a big flagship instance bigger.

I have a Matrix account on https://tchncs.de since years. Though I don't use it often, the admin seems to do a good job and provides bridges.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Yea, matrix is too much for that I need, an dhave seted up a mattermost server for my needs.

Planning to create a selfhosted team on it for the people of this communitty to talk real time about selfhosting and help each other fix issues in a more timelly and easier manner.