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If social media apps exist to slurp up as much user info as possible, and they do, then it makes sense to be concerned about the government that they're subject to.
Why is it okay for domestic companies to collect the same data and sell it to China, then?
This shouldn't just affect foreign companies if it's about data collection. It should have been an actual privacy bill. US citizens' privacy will be no better after this.
It's not ok.
But the fact is that China, North Korea, Iran, and Russia are adversaries of the United States, and the US government is justified in its concern.
They didn't seem to care much when Cambridge Analytica happened, and that was a foreign adversary. So what's different here?
The United Kingdom is not an adversary of the United States. In fact it's one of our closest allies. But, if anything, that suggests this law isn't enough, not that it's too much.
I meant that the data they collected was breached by a foreign adversary, thought that was pretty clear but guess not.
And the fact that a foreign adversary obtained this information was very bad, agreed? Clearly, it makes sense to take steps to keep that kind of information out of adversarial hands.
Yes, my point was this only affects one of them. It doesn't fix the root of the problem, because that's not the bill's target.
In fact, if TikTok remains, and does get banned, it just makes it so they no longer have to listen to the US government for anything.
The law affects social media apps based in North Korea, China, Iran, and Russia. These four countries are already restricted from participating in sensitive areas of the US economy, with forced sale being an option. The only really novel part of this law is applying such restrictions to software.
You're missing my point. The adversaries have many more avenues than just TikTok (like breaching the domestic companies that collect the data). The law is too specific and therefore does not actually protect us in any real way, at least not on a personal level.
It's not too specific, it's narrowly tailored. Which is one of the things it needs to be in order to survive a 1st amendment challenge.
Does it stop my data from getting to the CCP? Nope, so I would say it's too specific. The problem is not TikTok exclusively, the problem is that the data is collected and sold in the first place. This doesn't stop that.
Also, it leaves a bad taste when you say it was crafted to narrowly skirt the 1st amendment. That's not a good thing, so I'm not sure why you're trying to imply that it is.
It's like people legit don't want to understand your point.
It's kinda insane seeing people/the Overton window turn progressively more and more authoritarian
No, but it does prohibit companies in those four sanctioned countries from operating social media apps in the US. The fact that it's not a perfect protection is no good reason not to do it. The fact that it was written with an eye towards the first amendment is not a valid criticism.
A foreign adversary was responsible for the theft of the data that Cambridge shouldn't have had. That was what I meant.
I saw that farther down in the chain which is why I came back and deleted my comment.
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With the sort of detailed personal profile a social media app has on you, they could target your specific beliefs, religious convictions, sexual preferences, political affiliation, fears, interests, desires, etc. to manipulate your opinion in their interests. Doing this on a population-wide scale is what social media platforms are all about (i.e. targeted advertising). It's wise to be concerned about an adversary having such a tool at its disposal. And this is true for all countries, not just the US.