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All of those numbers should be higher.
Agreed but there is an important win here:
No more gun ownership for him, nor voting rights (in most states). He's removed himself from the most important parts of political discourse.
Something else I'm interested in seeing in the future is the sentence of a second conviction for some of these folks in the future when they inevitably decide to try some kind of insurrection again. What does sentencing look like for a two time insurrectionist?
There is no second failure. I’m pretty sure the pattern goes:
Look for step 3 on Jan 2025.
Do we need to look to Europe for a pattern when we experienced a Civil War right here at home?
No, but they aren't looking at history for a pattern that matches current events. They are looking for current events to match to the historical pattern they already chose, which is Hitler's rise to power.
I agree with your sentiment, but neither of those matters to someone who a) doesn't respect the results of an election and b) is OK with insurrection.
Sure it does. That future traffic stop where they would have gotten away with a misdemeanor speeding ticket now turns into a felony firearms charge in itself.
I suppose it could be describe as: their footprint for anonymity has drastically shrunk now. Any infraction under the law will be examined in microscopic detail not just by federal officials but even local law enforcement. Any consequence is now magnified 10 fold.
That's a great point I wasn't thinking it through.
It’s sounds good, but in practice we’ve seen that law enforcement, especially local ones, don’t enforce gun restrictions, if they even know about them.
The recent mass shooter in Maine could have easily been yellow flagged and had his guns removed, but police didn’t. And now the one deemed responsible for ignoring the warnings it’s running for a sheriff leadership position there.
And how many of the insurrectionists were actual current and former local law enforcement officers?
Yeah, I suspect the Venn diagram of "Convicted felons" and "Non-Firearm Owners" has a distressingly small overlap.
Much like "Has a lot of DUIs" and "Never drinks and drives"
Gun control advocacy is like a religion for some people.
Normally I'm against removal of voting rights after a prison term is served, but I'll gladly make an exception for violent insurrectionists.
That matters less than you think.
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/02/01/us/capitol-rioters-non-voters-invs/index.html
How am I not surprised?
"The election was stolen! Rigged! Sham!"
Did you vote?
"Uhhhh..no, the whole thing is rigged, why would I?"
Hoisted be his own retard.
babe wake up, a new bone-apple-tea just dropped
If these were black people causing an insurrection, you can bet those numbers would be higher
If it was a black person assaulting a police officer you can beat they’d have been shot.
They asked for more.
Sure, but 2.5 years is very real time. Some people might be willing to risk doing similar crimes if they think they'll only get a couple of months, but if they think they might get a couple of years that's a very different thing and it might deter many of them
Yes, they should. It also won’t matter if Trump wins in November.