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first of all, you lost me when you pointed to reddit.
second, they protested not just within the office, but in the personal office of one of the higher-ups. If you blockaded your CTO's office as a means of protesting world hunger, I don't think that would go well for you either.
If my company was helping perpetuate world hunger and I blockaded their office, I hope to God you wouldn't be gleeful at me getting fired
Not gleeful - just fully understanding why.
I admire their principled stand. They had to know it would cost them their jobs but chose to do it anyway.
Their firing isn't a surprise and is fully reasonable by the company. I hope they get great jobs elsewhere, where their morals will be appreciated... But there are very few workplaces that give a damn about morals.
At least we all agree that google is a piece of shit company.
Lets be clear, there's a difference between "reasonable" and "expected behavior" and it's an important one.
It's both reasonable and expected.
We can discuss if a corporation deserves to exist but granted that it does: it is implicitly reasonable that it deserves to maintain its premises and staffing in a way that is conducive to business.
Now if you want to talk about corporate structures and the dissolution of capitalist enterprise that's a different story.
But in today's world and with today's rules it is entirely reasonable.
I'd argue corporations should strive to represent their employees. Corporations don't deserve to maintain anything, they aren't people and have no ethical status either.
Nonetheless you're working double time to make sure the use of 'reasonable' with all its connotations is seen as acceptable here. Making sure everyone knows that you think this is normative.
We will not reach a common ground.
That's not a corporation that's a co-op. I think cooperatives are great. Corporations less so.
Ethical status isn't what I'm talking about here: I'm talking about legal protections for entities. A corporation is an entity and has legal protections.
Again we can discuss if capitalism should be the system we use but as long as it is then corporations will, by definition, have legal status and protections.
It's absolutely mundane and normal. It's unnatural but not strange.
I'd rather the system didn't work like this: but it is entirely expected given the laws that govern the nation in which this occurred.
And that's by definition normative.
You went from talking about concepts to directly attacking me. I wouldn't expect you'd ever come to a truce with someone you see as an enemy. I'm sorry you feel that way.
I wouldn't be "gleeful", but I can definitely see why the company was within their rights to fire you.
This is like those nutbags who shut down a highway to protest the environment or something, then accuse the police of being un-environmental when they're invariably arrested.
Shutting down the highway when the planet is literally burning up seems like a very obvious sign of outrage and great restraint as to not get violent despite that outrage, dont you think?
Arresting protestors during a largely ignored crisis which they protest seems kind of inhumane, no?
This is not at all like world hunger.
I still have zero regrets after walking away from my very very old reddit account. I torched everything I ever said, ground it into ash, stomped on it again, and then deleted my account. I still have my /. account though.
Those offices are usually locked down anyway, on floors where the unwashed masses aren't granted access. Hell, if you want to even be on a call with someone like the CTO you'll have to reach out to three different entities, book a specific room, and reach out to that person's team of assistants to ensure everything is aligned.
If they got access to the CTO office they definitely broke in, or evaded security in some way. That alone at any company will get you fired, and probably arrested.
Source: Once attended a meeting with a SVP at a big tech company. I genuinely think it would be easier to meet the president.