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I'm not here to score points. I'm expressing my thoughts and reservations about the article. I'm not even taking much of a position on what developers should do. It's more of an exploration of the landscape.
Unfortunately, skipping past a legitimate point doesn't address the point which remains unresolved. It's a nice rhetorical trick though. I'd rather discuss the point. (Even though others have had discussions, that doesn't help me understand and learn.) There's no urgency for me to reach a conclusion, so a bit of rehashing of "tired" perspectives isn't offensive to me.
Reasonable doesn't always mean appropriate or best for the situation. It doesn't always lead to good or better outcomes. Shutting down and dismissing legitimate concerns is not a good way to build a consensus and and will often lead to adverse outcomes. It is ironic that this person's approach is making the same mistakes they are trying to warn against.
There's a clear conflict that literally can't be ignored. It must be considered by all participants, else those participants will be unexpectedly unsatisfied with the outcomes.
I don't think you added anything new to the argument and their linked source addressed it from a technical and ethical perspective.
Personally, I don't think that it's reasonable when someone asks you to not do something for you to do that thing directly to them.
You've done that here. Whether or not you think you're bringing up good points, it's still pretty rude.
Anyway, you're right that this isn't about points. I started off trying to give you benefit of the doubt that you were respectfully responding to the article and just missed what they had said, but then you doubled down and triple downed.
I understand the need to try to voice concerns, and so I understand why you're continuing to push.