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Why not promote matrix as a substitute?
It's unfortunately barely usable, the responsiveness and features of discord are unmatched, in my opinion
It is not perfect, but it has been usable for quite a while. It's clocking already at tens of millions of active users per month, so it's not like all these people are just suffering around and not chatting and talking with their groups.
Also, unlike Reddit, it does not need to have a strong migration from all the long tail of niche communities. There are bridges already, so even if just, e.g, 5% of the discord base moves to it, it will be already enough to jumpstart a significant shift.
How do the bridges work? Do they need to be set up by the community, or do they just work?
They need to be setup by the homeserver, i.e by the admin of the "instance".
Thanks 🙂
I would love an alternative that works just as seemlessly yeah!
The strength of Discord is its numerous partnerships with YouTube, Twitch, Patreon etc, making it trivial to gather paying supporters around a streamer or a video creator, attributing roles and perks automatically. I manage the patron community of a Minecraft gamer on YouTube and automatically sync the access to a community Minecraft server for people with a certain pledge on third part platforms, this would never work in the open source world, unfortunately
Do you mean exclusive/tiered access to certain rooms only for subscribers?
If you are telling me that such a thing doesn't exist for Matrix already, you just gave me a perfect thing to offer on communick
That's very cool I'll check it out :)
I don’t know about other platforms, but YouTube membership is totally implementable on any other platform.
The workflow anyone need to implement is the same flow Discord has implemented:
mine
filter on channels.list end point. This way the service can know SomeOneWatching is owner of channel UC1234ABCDfilterByMemberChannelId
on the same members.list end point.Source: I’ve worked in YouTube adjacent company using all of their public and several proprietary APIs for around 10 years now. I’m fairly familiar with their API offerings.
That's good to know, i thought it was be some kind of exclusive deal between the two entities.
Of course, convincing people to get off Discord when almost everyone already have an account, a desktop app and a phone app ready to go sounds like a hurdle, but with time and enough enshittification™ anything is possible!
I wouldn't say barely usable, but it does have a long way to go before it could be a replacement for discord, that's true
No screen sharing or even video calls iirc. Soo many people use Discord to watch stuff with their friends or to play games with their friends. Matrix is more of a irc replacement imo it doesnt have any gaming focused features and the Forums on discord are nice too
Matrix video call support is still in beta IIRC? https://call.element.io/
Works with Jitsi just fine...
Good to know!
just came out of beta afaik
I haven't tried matrix yet. What's a good instance I can create my community on and bridge with my discord? For gaming communities.
For Discord like communities, I'd also suggest using Element as the Matrix client. It's pretty similar to Discord. Also, you'll need support for "spaces", which are like Discord servers. Rooms = channels
You can try out matrix.org and can always move it later
I guess, but I don't really want to contribute to the centralization all on the biggest instance
Yeah, there are some glaring issues with account and content deletion. Lemmy too, for that matter. If I delete something, I don't want it to be just slightly obscured and easily recovered, I want it to be erased, unseeable forever. But that aspect of privacy doesn't count in the FOSS circle jerk hive mind. "Keeping illegal revenge porn online forever is worth it so long as they don't tell advertisers what colour I like".
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