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Title is self explanatory. For background, I am currently running Asahi Linux on my M1 MBP. Whenever I connected the hotspot without data being turned on, it somehow still worked like any regular wifi. I even ran several updates in the system and downloaded multiple apps in this wifi, which I find it amusing. But out of curiosity, I wanted to know from you guys that what could the reason be for this.

EDIT: So after following the advice of [email protected], I relized that the hotspot is using the network of my University's Wi-Fi, which explains why the hotspot worked even with the data turned off.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Do a traceroute and see which network it transits through

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Ok, so after running traceroute, it seems that the hotspot is using the network of my university Wi-Fi, which my phone is connected with. EDIT: Thanks a lot! Forgot to thank you for the advice 😅

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (3 children)

It's interesting on it's own, since I do remember my android phone disconnecting from wifi when enabling the hotspot. If I understand it right, this type of wifi bridge requires two radios to work efficiently, but it may have changed in latest Wi-Fi standards. Curious nontheless.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I'm guessing it uses the 2.4ghz antenna to transmit and the 5ghz antenna to receive or vice-versa

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This was my thinking as well, I did not know that there are phones that can be connected to a wifi network while hosting their own wifi network 🤔 On my iPhone, the only way to achieve Internet on pc while phone is on wifi, is to connect the phone via USB to the PC and share the internet connection this way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Most androids can, samsung hides it behind a setting called "wifi bridge" and some hide it in dev settings but its almost always default off

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Exactly, hence this post.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is the phone essentially acting as a fancy Layer 3 extender?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

No idea about that, tho even my old phone, which was Xiaomi 12T, could do that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Which phone is that? I thought that most phones could not create a hotspot and at the same time connect to a WiFi network.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most phones can, it's just disabled in software, you can enable it in Androids developer settings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

wow, that's a stupid default setting. thanks

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Mine is a Motorola Edge 40.