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    Arch celebrating plasma 6 dropping a week after NixOS (i.imgflip.com)
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    [–] [email protected] 58 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    ...NixOS is the new Arch Linux. Change my mind.

    [–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Hardly, NixOS documentation is trash. The Arch Wiki is essentially the platonic ideal of documentation.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

    Truefax

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

    Maybe you should learn to read the manual or debug your system without hand holding 😉

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The difference is I can upgrade my NixOS without breaking everything hahaha. But it has gotten a lot more popular recently, which I think is your analogy? Or because people always bring it up now lol

    [–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    yea i think its the popularity spike. if only there were more docs on flakes though.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    I still don't completely get their point, TBH.

    And the Nix language seems to be intentionally confusingly close to json.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

    The similarities are superficial at best. The only thing similar is that it uses braces for attribute sets (objects) and square brackets for lists. And I guess quotes for strings.

    But otherwise it's a full (functional) programming language, with functions, variable bindings, etc.

    Flakes aren't perfect, but they are really good for ensuring that you have completely reproducible builds since the version used for every dependency is pinned.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

    • control the versions of the repo and packages

    • config the official repo (allow unfree packages for example) that doesn't work unless you're on nixos

    • add packages from a git repo

    • update package definitions (think apt update)

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

    iirc theyre meant to improve reproducibility by using pinned versions of stuff like nixpkgs instead of inheriting from your system which could be a problem if for example someone on 23.11 sends a deriv to someone on 24.05

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

    If only wiki was as good as Arch's...

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

    exactly. cant blame them tho, its unofficial.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

    I agree, altough I'm trying to use them here and there, i'm still very confused by it.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

    i actually managed to somewhat break it. But a rollback just immediately fixed it again.

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

    It doesn't have a wiki as good as Arch, yet