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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The instance list is fine as is. Think about it like this: do you want racists to join a single instance so they are all in one place? Or do you want them to spread across all different instances, causing moderation problems everywhere?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i would rather want the racists to not be able to go anywhere at all

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesnt really matter what you want. The software is open source so anyone can use the software freely. No way to prevent it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

yea sure there will always be racist instances but they shouldn't be promoted on sites like join-lemmy.org

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's possible that anti-racist, queer or any other serious organisations might not want to link to join-lemmy.org because of it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thats fine, they can provide their own list of instances where users can choose from.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They are on your list (which is seen as the official one by many and has most visits) to guide transphobes and fascists to their fitting community?? Exploding-heads is not labeled as transphobe and fascist on join-lemmy. So that does't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And if the racist is here to cause problems rather than commiserate with fellow racists, they now know exactly which community to avoid, thus restoring moderation problems everywhere. I don't think anyone is asking you to moderate every instance to ensure they are sticking to your TOS or your viewpoints, but it's a very minor ask to not showcase off the racists and transphobes and bigots on the 'join this platform' page.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are plenty of other instance lists across the internet. So its not even a real solution for your theoretical problem.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I don't think the people raising this as a concern are trying to solve the problem of bigots on the internet; they are just asking for you to change the advertising you provide to remove the bigots from a place of visibility.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And then we should block lemmygrad, lemmy.world, hexbear and hundreds of other instances? Thats not gonna happen. If you want to block instances, do that on the beehaw side.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not here to proselytize about what we decide to block or not. I'm explaining what the person above is requesting - not a block, but a conscious decision about what shows up on the join-lemmy list.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I'm new to the fediverse, and even I can tell you're missing the point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I think it would be best if they would all gather on one instance that can get defederated. Right now they attract users on join-lemmy with "Use humor and facts to hold the ruling class accountable", no other info.