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submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

My girlfriend is be very interested in putting Blink (Amazon) cameras up around our property. I am not interested in paying Amazon to keep our security footage.

What I'd like to do is have motion activated internet connected cameras around the property that somehow send footage to a server (I don't know if that's the correct term, I'm kind of an idiot) that I keep on the property.

So I have three questions:

  1. is this the right forum to be asking about self hosting security footage?
  2. does anyone here have experience doing this and would they be willing to send some pointers my way?
  3. is this a feasible DIY project or am I better served paying for a service?

I've done a little digging into self hosting and it's not cheap, but I think it will be cheaper than paying a subscription. And safer too, which is rad.

Thank you all!

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Cameras in general aren't as easy as cheap plugs to deal with. There's the OpenIPC project but it seems only to support very specific chips that are sometimes older, hard to find or not price/feature competitive like something such as what TP-Link offers.

For what's worth TP-Link Tapo cameras (TC70, 71 etc.) aren't that bad when it comes to privacy, there isn't much "cloud". They do require you to use their mobile app and cloud to setup the camera but afterwards you can just run them on an isolated VLAN / firewall them from the internet completely and you'll still be able to use all of the camera's features. Those cameras provide a generic rtsp stream that even VLC can play and there's also a good HA integration that provides all features of the TP-Link Tapo application like pan / move / download recordings from the camera's SD card and whatnot 100% locally / offline.

I particularly like their cameras because they're really cheap and decent, while not perfect in terms of privacy they've a good trade off when it comes to price but require initial cloud setup. They also have wireless versions, ethernet versions and a cheap PoE splitter will be good for those.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They do require you to use their mobile app and cloud to setup the camera but afterwards you can just run them on an isolated VLAN / firewall them from the internet completely

Do you have any good guides or articles diving deeper on this? I was also pondering Home Assistant - it supports tapo devices, but I don't know much about it. Would that be a possible solution?

and you'll still be able to use all of the camera's features

would this include a live cam feed?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Home Assistant - it supports tapo devices, but I don’t know much about it. Would that be a possible solution?

I just told you it works fine under Home Assistant and provided a link to the integration. https://github.com/JurajNyiri/HomeAssistant-Tapo-Control

would this include a live cam feed?

Yes. It includes, live feed, the ability to move the camera, ring the bell, turn on privacy mode, enable patrol mode... and use the camera's sensors. There's also an option to automatically download recorded video on the camera's SD card every x hours or days. Here's the full list of entities available under HA for those cameras (note that your camera must support the feature):

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, didn't click the link, didn't realize HA stands for Home Assistance there. As you can tell, pretty new to this. Thanks for the answer!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, no problem. The bottom line is that it works very well for the low price of those cameras and I couldn't be happier.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you wouldn't mind, could you share how you managed to make the Tapo cameras work with Home Assistant? I finally got it set up and while I had no isse with bulbs, cameras just can't be adde through the TP Link integration. There are no Tapo cameras listed as supported on the Home Assistant web eithet

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

As I said before, you've to install this: https://github.com/JurajNyiri/HomeAssistant-Tapo-Control then go to Settings > Devices > Add and search for Tapo.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I guess that's the issue - I assume this needs to be installed on the hardware running the Home Assistant. I went with the easy option of getting the Home Assistant Green hub, so I don't assume there is a way for me to make it work... or it's just beyond my capabilities

Thanks anyway for your patience with me, unknowingly asking the same damn thing over and over like a dummy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I assume this needs to be installed on the hardware running the Home Assistant

Yes, and why would that be an issue? After you've HACS on your HA you can just search for "Tapo Control" and click install.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If there is a way to do this on the Home Assistant Green hub I bought I have no idea how is the issue. But oh well, looking into workarounds. I at least figured out how to add it as a simple IP cam for now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Home Assistant Green hub

I believe it has an "advanced mode" somewhere in the profile that can be used to enable SSH access to the thing and then it will behave like any other HA installation on generic hardware. You can go there install HACS using SSH and then use the UI to install the tapo thing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Will try to look into that, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! I bought a few tapos because of what i understood would be easy integration (with shinobi) but left them a bit abandoned since. The speaker function (to use the camera to talk) isn't implemented, right?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It seems to be possible to stream audio to the camara and there's some discussion about getting 2-way audio using WebRTC but it isn't going anywhere: https://github.com/JurajNyiri/HomeAssistant-Tapo-Control/issues/99

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Thanks! I'll look it up.