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Outside the US, no one cares. Most people use WhatsApp and they don't care what hardware it runs on.
What's WhatsApp?
Edit: nm i googled it. It's a way to sacrifice your privacy and security while supporting an evil company. I'm cool...
As if iMessage, the platform that requires hardware from a specific company, is much better.
There are more than two options for messaging now.
Both primary phone platforms are kinda shit though.
I'm a Signal man myself but iMessage's faults don't make WhatsApp any better and that's a blatant whataboutism, fuck!
I can't believe you seriously asked what WhatsApp is... where do you come from?
Dude could be Chinese..
Compton fool! But i think the real excuse is I'm old and don't do social media other than this.
Everyone around me have family groups on WhatsApp, including 90+ old grandmas.
Awesome! You should definitely investigate Signal and start recommending it to others. Meta is evil and can't be trusted. Or privacy is critical to our survival. Party on, Comrade
I was a Signal fan until they decided to drop SMS. Now it's just an app with 1% of my friends.
Why are you attached to sms?
Because that's the universal text messaging platform - everybody's got it. And because we're receiving messages from companies via SMS.
Yeah. I don't care about that. Security trumps convenience for me and i have to say that signal is pretty convenient.
Funnily enough, WhatsApp being E2E encrypted means it's one of the more private and secure chat apps out there.
It still records who you talk to, as well as how much and when. That info is held by the biggest peddler in privacy info out there. No way I trust Facebook/meta as much as any of the other e2e chat clients.
Oh yeah, other options are better. Implying that it's completely unsecure is just misleading.
Gotcha, good point.
The problem is, it's not open source... so whole E2E encryption is based on "trust us" method. We have no idea if implementation is any good or if it at all does what hey claim it does. Sure at some point they might have paid some company to do independent review but it's not on version-by-version basis.
E2E encrypted between facebook app #1 and facebook app #2, sure