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Is it against YT TOS or did they take the liberty with this decision
Second, as much as I have always found him sketchy and a very irritating person, I am very alarmed by the erosion of people's right to be presumed innocent until found guilty. even when I know that he is quite capable of the committing those allegation
A platform can choose themselves who they extend the platform to.
It may not be justice, but if Youtube decides to demonetise every video featuring red sweaters, then they have the liberty to do so.
That's too much power for a monopoly to have. And YouTube is quite close to a monopoly.
Maybe "more fool you" but entire livelihoods and businesses rely on YouTube not cutting them off at any random moment with no notice or warning.
That's why it's so important to just build your own website and to stop being dependent on other people for anything you have.
Right. "just build your own YouTube" is the solution. 👍
PeerTube exists yet you still whine.
YouTube sucks, but it's not a monopoly. It's nowhere close to one. Monopolies are not "there's only one product." People love spouting monopoly to every mainstream product like iPhone and Windows.
YouTube has plenty of competition in video hosting. There's more professional high cost ones like Netflix. Less giving but just as easily accessible is TikTok. Hell there's even PornHub.
Just because YouTube has a unique combination of services that has allowed self employment for many people that can't get it easily on existing sites does not mean that competition does not exist. Many content creators on YouTube actually advertise a competing site on YouTube.
Before we can start offering solutions we need to have a good understanding on what the problem is and what it isn't.
Don’t want the risk of culpability ? Don’t want to consider others? Feel entitled? Then go Create your own distribution.
It's simple, just don't do something that will get you banned fifteen years later when the winds change direction. Sure, red sweaters were cool back then, but now they mean something wildly different. We'll give you three strikes for three videos with one second of a red sweater. And you're deleted for so many strikes. Thanks, bu-bye.
You just compared clothing choice to rape. Seek therapy.
Alledged rape. Presumption of innocence.
I'm not a fucking jury or newscaster so I'm not sure why you're coming at me with that incel shit.
He fucking did it anyway.
The allegations say it was ten years ago. Can we have women turn to the police before their rapist turn famous and rich?
Yeah I just found out this British guy is a cunt and some pseudo crazy Jesus christ right winger, but not everyone who's awful is really guilty
It's a weird hill for you to die on.
Oh joy, rape apologia, what a wonderful thing to wake up to in the morning. 🤦
THIS GUY RAPED ME, BAN HIM
And it was great, too. 😈
You know what the best part is? Statistically the odds of me suffering any negative consequences for raping you is so small as to be insignificant, so it literally doesn't even matter.
Even if I did, people like you would run to my beck and call simply because you think rapists should not be held accountable on principle, so I have even less to worry about.
So yes, I raped you, and there's nothing you can do about it.
Nothing.
But YouTube doesn't have a monopoly, you're more than welcome to start up a competing video hosting site and steal their customers. YouTube is providing a platform, for people to upload and store their videos for free -- they have every right to decide who they do and don't want on their platform.
Due to network effects, YouTube has a monopoly in video hosting. A monopoly is any company which has significantly more marketshare in its respective niche than all other companies in the same niche.
Now, does YouTube fit this definition?
Btw, there have been successful lawsuits against channel suspensions already from people making a living off of YouTube due to worker protection laws.
YT is a private company supplying a server. They can set their own policy (TOS which is neither enforceable by law for either side) and they don’t actually owe anyone their livelihood. It’s like getting kicked off of any platform,even Etsy. Etsy doesn’t then owe you money that you could have made. You don’t own potential money. It’s not promised to you. They are a platform. Not your distributor. And even at that you can be kicked from a distributor anytime as they can also have policies on content they will associate with. If they decide it’s disagreeable, that in itself is a breach of contract.
I don't think the debate is whether YouTube is allowed to choose who is or isn't on their site, but whether it is OK to subject someone to the result of a trial by social media.
If someone made an accusation against you, would you think it'd be right of your employer to sack you, or would you like the chance to defend yourself legally first?
he’s not EMPLOYED by YouTube. That is not what this is.
YouTube doesn't need to presume shit. You're confusing YouTube with the US government.
Yeah, I don't know anything about this guy but this is an alarming decision if the headline is accurate.
It's more alarming if he is innocent
Mm..I don’t think that’s usually the case with all allegations of this nature. You may be partially right but I think people are all over this one because of how “sketchy” he is in the first place. If someone like let’s say…Keanu Reeves is accused of something like this, everyone would probably side with Keanu because of who he is and who he always has been.
I really hope no one falsely accuses you of a sex crime, because you've just made your bed.
if it were Keanu Reeves, He would get the Pretty privilege