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Fairphone’s latest repairable device is for people who hate saying goodbye to an old smartphone more than they like buying a new one.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • extremely slow updates
  • incomplete updates as component lifespan is shorter than advertized

Yeah, its about what comes in the Future

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Google sure is creating a lot of Pixel-fanboys by instilling this myth that if you dont get daddy google's precious over-the-air updates delivered to your phone in 30 seconds after their release your phone might be at great risk®™ (exactly like if you dont let google play store scan the apps on your device to look for malicious software, like F-Droid, a common known attack vector).

Because surely Fairphone users are all government officials with nuclear codes and Kim Jong-un's nudes saved in their notes and teams of indian hackers are 24/7 waiting for a security update to release, so they can unpack the zero-day-vulnerabilities before fairphone gets their release-cycle

Can you please elaborate further on this "component lifespan" thing? Because I think they were quite clear on the processor life cycle.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Not all components included will get security updates for as long as their OS will.

Agree that instant updates are not essential for many people, but you dont need 0days to abuse publicly disclosed vulnerabilities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What components are you talking about? Can you provide some sort of source or reference or something? Are you maybe talking about the data modem?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yes a lot of parts. The Kernel is made for that specific SOC and may not get updated.

Then you have various parts like the modem are made by Samsung, Broadcomm etc. and need their firmware updates.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Don't forget the fact they manufacture it in an oppressive authoritarian regime, where the sales tax goes to fund over 1 million Uighurs being held in literal concentration camps.

Imagine if 80 years ago there were products labeled "Ethically Made in Nazi Germany", and the marketing team said it's important to help the individual small businesses there so that the good people can have a higher standard of living.

It's mind boggling to me that people are falling for this.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They make the problem of their supply chain clear. And still, it is probably the most "fair" phone you can get, so I dont understand the critizism really.

Why arent you criticizing all the other manufacturers, that dont even try to do anything positive? Its always the small companies, that try to improve on things and then get shitted over for not going all the way. I dont understand it...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They are making an effort though. Every other manufacturer also produces in China. Fairphone at least pays the workers better and tries to make the supply chain as ethical as possible.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No the don't. Samsung, for example, is almost all Made in Vietnam.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

The Korean OEM has fully invested in Vietnam to reduce costs. I wish other OEMs ranging from Europe to India should invest in Vietnam.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

If you want something manufactured in a country that isn't commiting human rights violations then you are not going to find it (not even the US, which is also funding a genocide right now)