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Italy’s new Piracy Shield has just gone into operation and is already harming human rights there
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this post was submitted on 15 Feb 2024
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I bet VPN providers in privacy respecting countries are seeing a large increase in subscribers from Italy now.
Or not. "All VPN and open DNS services must also comply with blocking orders". A VPN provider can't legally sell their services in Italy unless they comply. The best part is: since the govt is blocking websites they can also block providers who doesn't play according to their rules :)
Someone will figure out a way to get around it. People can get a VPN through the great firewall of China, they will get through whatever Italy does as well.
For just a bit more than a VPN subscription, you can rent a VPS and route your traffic through it. Basically, be your own VPN.
Maybe this law will spur innovation and skills in sysadmin, like how people who grew up before smart phones actually had to learn how computers work.
This is a definite no for moving to italy. They should also be kicked out of the EU for this.
I mean, that would kick out more than just Italy.
I’m not an Italian citizen and I don’t live there.
Their laws do not apply to me. An Italian citizen or resident can go online and buy vpn service from me. There is not law im subjected to that says I can’t sell vpn services to Italians.
I am both but my other comment is kinda getting ignored lol
I don’t even need a vpn to pirate, it’s business as usual.
All this stuff is just for IPTVs that stream soccer matches because Calcio is the king sport here.
The site posted by OP is kinda useless journalism lol. AirVPN quit just for a reason: they are an Italian company. Mullvad, Proton, Quad9… Business as usual.
This isn't true. If you don't comply with the other law regarding the website blocks then the Italian govt will politely ask you to. If your business happens to be on another EU member state they might even try to get your local authorities involved in the asking. Either way, if you don't comply or they can't reach you (cause you're ouside the EU) they'll proceed to block your website / domains in Italy and no more business for you.
Being blocked in Italy would be my worst case scenario.
You may face criminal charges if you’re from another EU country. Or if your business is very large the Italian government gets really interested they may be able to ask other govts for help.
Sure but you'd basically be scamming them as the VPN service wouldn't work because even if you sent them the VPN installer and login it wouldn't connect.
Why wouldn’t it connect?
Unless they block my specific IP address then? It will work. And if they block my ip address, then I can just get a new one pretty easily.
FTA: "The list of IP addresses and domain names to be blocked is drawn up by private bodies authorised by AGCOM"
Edit: You're correct, you could run a VPN on your own server and sell access, as this would only block known VPN services.
Could you buy another VPN through a VPN?
Putting performance aside, you can but still raises some legal and billing questions.
Not with mullvad it won't
You just have to self-declare you don't live in Italy.
I’ve been using quad 9 dns for years and torrenting without issues.
These laws are made just to make happy the people getting rich with calcio streamings and alike. IPTV and stuff is enforced, for the rest it’s just business as usual
I'm sure your aware but for people who aren't... Only changing your DNS doesn't hide your traffic, only your DNS query. They can't see you are resolving 1337x.to but they CAN see you access 104.31.16.118. This is why a VPN is important as it stops your ISP from seeing all of your traffic.
Yep, good to note for other people. I’m aware but here torrenting is kinda allowed. If you do it for yourself and without any profit motive you can just keep going without any kind of issue
The dns change is just to not have to use proxies to access stuff like libgen and piratebay in my case :)
DNS as a protocol is in general clear text. Your provider can see what you query regardless.
That's why dns-over-https is so important
Root servers don't support that. Nothing would stop governments from telling all ISPs in the country to block all DNS servers that don't comply.
Edit: Missed a word.