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Hello based people of lemmy,

I have recently started trying out BSDs as an alternative to Linux and found out that Spotify isn't supported. Before you say try it in a browser this doesn't work as spotify has DRM that doesn't work on BSD OSes.

Now is there a way to stream music similar to Spotify? I know there is a downloader program available.

Furthermore do you know what self-hosted options are available? I already have a basic *arr stack and am always up for convoluted server and Linux hijinks.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you are wrong. FreeBSD is a general purpose operating system. You install what you need and configure what you need. GhostBSD and its ilk are for weenies.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Now you sound like an Arch kid. I say this as someone who used to be an Arch kid sort of.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

I use Arch too. I've been using FreeBSD for 21 years, though. I run everything on it, even this Lemmy instance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Okay I will probably move to FreeBSD proper eventually. I am still new to this though and likely to break things. I don't want to have to go through a whole process every time I mess up to get a usable working system until I actually know what I am doing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Install on ZFS root, snapshot a known good, then you can rollback as you wish.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this might be the way. I have created a FreeBSD current USB drive to install off of. I am thinking the newer slightly less stable version has less GPU issues as that seems to be the main factor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That almost certainly untrue. Do not run CURRENT, it has INVARIANTS and WITNESS enabled that will make it painfully slow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's good to know. Is there also a way to suppress error messages in the installer? They fill the whole screen from one repeating message and I can't actually install it because of that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Again, it is because you are using CURRENT. Don't use it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Never used current, I went with stable. What's the solution?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

To what? Provide the error message and stop asking to be spoonfed? And you can hit ^L to make the install refresh the screen like with any curses program, fyi.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

ubt0: ubt_bulk_read_callback:1131: bulk-in transfer failed: USB_ERR stalled.

Also ctrl+L isn't clearing the screen.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That is your bluetooth adapter. Just disable it, press 3 at the boot menu to break to loader prompt and set hint.ubt.0.disabled="1" and boot

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

It's USB related. Probably an unsupported device. If it's really an issue I can address it later but first I need to get the thing installed. Also I had no idea you could do that with ncurses.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I managed to fix it using some command from a forum luckily.

I now believe it's Bluetooth related. Boads well for using Bluetooth devices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

An idea, maybe just stick to Linux if first class hardware and proprietary software support is what you're chasing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hardly use Bluetooth. But yes I don't think FreeBSD will work on my laptop for example. It has issues with the keyboard on that machine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Running FreeBSD on a laptop newer than 5ish years old is asking for a bad time no matter what. Linux has Intel and AMD engineers implementing power management for their parts. FreeBSD has no such help. Your laptop will likely be idling at a much higher power consumption than it would under Linux.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Did I say CURRENT? I meant STABLE. Which is weird because shouldn't something called stable be the version you release, but release is a separate one. It's confusing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You need to read the handbook before you start spouting judgments about the releng process.

STABLE is cut from CURRENT. RELEASE is cut from STABLE.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I got that thanks. It's a very odd way to label things. It doesn't follow industry standards which are normally: alpha, beta, release candidate, release.

Or even the debian method of: unstable, testing, stable, oldstable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Please quote me the relevant "industry standards." It is all perspective, and FreeBSD releng certainly does not cater to what some rando online might think is an intuitive way to name release trains. This has been done this way for 30 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Out of curiosity what do you use Linux for and what do you use FreeBSD for? Do you use FreeBSD as a desktop or only as a server?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Linux on laptops, and certain other servers (TV headend/DVR, APCO P25 SDRtrunk host), and video transfer workstation. FreeBSD on any other servers, routers, and workstations, including my home automation controller (I maintain a fork of Home Assistant for FreeBSD).