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Hi, I am currently on GhostBSD but that could change so I didn't want to be too specific in the post. I have tried installing spotify the way you suggest and it just crashes before I can get to a login screen. Do you think there is a way to make it work?
I do not use GhostBSD and am not familiar with it. It can be done on vanilla FreeBSD, you need to bootstrap an Ubuntu base system which is somewhat involved since there is not a package for it. Google is your friend.
Oh and GhostBSD uses FreeBSD packages essentially. It's like how Endeavour OS is to Arch linux of that makes sense.
I am sure they have muddied the waters with some garbage "user-friendly" configuration.
Honestly I haven't found them to do anything daft yet. From my understanding FreeBSD is a pain to configure for desktop usage as it's designed more for servers. Tell me if I am wrong.
Yes, you are wrong. FreeBSD is a general purpose operating system. You install what you need and configure what you need. GhostBSD and its ilk are for weenies.
Now you sound like an Arch kid. I say this as someone who used to be an Arch kid sort of.
I use Arch too. I've been using FreeBSD for 21 years, though. I run everything on it, even this Lemmy instance.
Okay I will probably move to FreeBSD proper eventually. I am still new to this though and likely to break things. I don't want to have to go through a whole process every time I mess up to get a usable working system until I actually know what I am doing.
Install on ZFS root, snapshot a known good, then you can rollback as you wish.
Yeah this might be the way. I have created a FreeBSD current USB drive to install off of. I am thinking the newer slightly less stable version has less GPU issues as that seems to be the main factor.
That almost certainly untrue. Do not run CURRENT, it has
INVARIANTSandWITNESSenabled that will make it painfully slow.That's good to know. Is there also a way to suppress error messages in the installer? They fill the whole screen from one repeating message and I can't actually install it because of that.
Again, it is because you are using CURRENT. Don't use it.
Never used current, I went with stable. What's the solution?
To what? Provide the error message and stop asking to be spoonfed? And you can hit ^L to make the install refresh the screen like with any curses program, fyi.
ubt0: ubt_bulk_read_callback:1131: bulk-in transfer failed: USB_ERR stalled.
Also ctrl+L isn't clearing the screen.
That is your bluetooth adapter. Just disable it, press 3 at the boot menu to break to loader prompt and
set hint.ubt.0.disabled="1"andbootIt's USB related. Probably an unsupported device. If it's really an issue I can address it later but first I need to get the thing installed. Also I had no idea you could do that with ncurses.
I managed to fix it using some command from a forum luckily.
I now believe it's Bluetooth related. Boads well for using Bluetooth devices.
An idea, maybe just stick to Linux if first class hardware and proprietary software support is what you're chasing.
I hardly use Bluetooth. But yes I don't think FreeBSD will work on my laptop for example. It has issues with the keyboard on that machine.
Running FreeBSD on a laptop newer than 5ish years old is asking for a bad time no matter what. Linux has Intel and AMD engineers implementing power management for their parts. FreeBSD has no such help. Your laptop will likely be idling at a much higher power consumption than it would under Linux.
Did I say CURRENT? I meant STABLE. Which is weird because shouldn't something called stable be the version you release, but release is a separate one. It's confusing.
You need to read the handbook before you start spouting judgments about the releng process.
STABLE is cut from CURRENT. RELEASE is cut from STABLE.
Yeah I got that thanks. It's a very odd way to label things. It doesn't follow industry standards which are normally: alpha, beta, release candidate, release.
Or even the debian method of: unstable, testing, stable, oldstable.
Please quote me the relevant "industry standards." It is all perspective, and FreeBSD releng certainly does not cater to what some rando online might think is an intuitive way to name release trains. This has been done this way for 30 years.
Out of curiosity what do you use Linux for and what do you use FreeBSD for? Do you use FreeBSD as a desktop or only as a server?
Linux on laptops, and certain other servers (TV headend/DVR, APCO P25 SDRtrunk host), and video transfer workstation. FreeBSD on any other servers, routers, and workstations, including my home automation controller (I maintain a fork of Home Assistant for FreeBSD).