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It's like buying a tiara for your fetus, before you even buy a crib.

ALSO, MICROTRANSACTIONS = DLC.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I've never seen a game in early access have dlc, only micro transactions for stuff like cosmetics and boosts. Can you give me an example of dlc on an early access game?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Offhand, I know ARK released paid DLC while still in early access.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Yeah see that's absurd

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Do they sell expansions? Or just ships? I'm on original basic backer and don't even know lol

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1604030/V_Rising/

I guess you could define the DLC for this game as "microtransactions," because it's basically alternate cosmetic stuff, for equipment and housing decorations. But it's sold under the label of "DLC," and I don't care to make a distinction between "microtransactions" and "DLC," myself. One is a subset of the other.

If they have time to be making decorative extra shit, they should be spending that time working on the core game, which IS NOT FINISHED YET.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

You called for a more nuanced take from the other comment thread, but you would put cosmetics and expansions under the same label in this one because you "don't care to make a distinction" - do you see the issue?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I don't see any issue. I can have any opinion I want, with or without your permission.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, you can have any opinion you want. And no one needs to take you seriously. Your senseless unhinged rambling speaks plenty for itself.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but if you opinions are hypocritical, they're free to point that out. It does undermine both you and this discussion.

In this case, there is nuance between cosmetics and expansion pack type dlc. One is obviously more atrocious, but if you'd engage honestly in the debate, you'd find that many people do distinguish between those things. And many people are asking you to provide examples of a game and you point to cosmetics. For many of us, that vastly changes the conversation.

It may not for you, but for us, that nuance matters. And if you're going to jump on the badwagon in one post extolling the virtues of deeper conversation because otherwise Lemmy will become a sesspit, I dunno, maybe do some of that yourself. Be part of the solution, not the problem.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go see all the nuances other people are discussing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that's what I was talking about. I have no problem with this. I mean, I won't buy any of it, but cosmetic artists and riggers aren't the same people who do level design and shit.

If you want to show me someone selling, like, an expansion for $20 on an early access game then I'll be incredulous with you. But that link is just typical bad business. No reason for Valve to get involved banning it or whatever

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that THE. GAME. IS. NOT. FUCKING. FINISHED.

That's the problem. Every single nanosecond spent working on DLC/microtransaction shit is being STOLEN from the people who paid into the Early Access model.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This sounds personal. Who hurt you?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nobody, in this specific situation.

See, this is a thing called EMPATHY. And a sense of justice, outside what I stand to gain, personally.

I believe people should be called out for doing shitty things, just in general. This seems to be an entirely alien concept for a lot of folks. I find that disturbing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Your attitude betrays your passion. This level of anger is abnormal for the subject of cosmetics in early access games, even for empathetic people. I give both time and money to charity and I'm nowhere near your level of angry and emotional over cosmetics.

Whether you'll admit it or not, something happened to make you this emotionally sensitive to this particular issue. I'm curious what it was

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Believe what you want. I'll have the satisfaction of being correct, either way.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

True ignorance is the ability to look a contradicting reality in the face and declare your own correctness anyway. I hope one day you get better at learning from your experiences