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No evidence that UFOs are aliens — NASA attempts to make conversations about aerial phenomena more scientific::NASA attempts to make conversations about aerial phenomena more scientific.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Everyone wants X Files but it's just countries spying on each other and military experiments. Anything fantastical like the mummies are news spectacles meant to drum up publicity. There's no reason why aliens would match cartoony depictions made up in science fiction. If actual aliens are here it basically means travelling faster than light is possible.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's likely even more boring than that. These grainy, blurry, IR images are artifacts, birds, balloons, the Moon, commercial aircraft, stars, satellites, and other common things that can look weird from certain angles/perspectives/lenses/sensors.

I'd be super happy to be proven wrong but people really want to believe there's more out there and it's visiting us but I'm going to need more solid proof than some noisy and blurry images and some silly-looking chimera mummies in a box.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah the vast majority are just artifacts or weather phenomena, and the only material evidence is clearly man made tech. Also when people describe aliens they, big surprise, match depictions in science fiction.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Tic tac was recorded on video by the navy accelerating at ~200G. It was also witnessed by 8 highly trained aircrew, including top gun graduates.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

200g *if * they are interpreting what they see correctly. A sensor artifact doesn't need to respect any flight characteristics.

Being experts in one field doesn't make them experts in whatever may be causing the tic tac.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Flir.mp4 at the bottom. NASA analyzed gofast which is the least interesting of the 3.

https://www.navair.navy.mil/foia/documents

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Idk why these people are all denying these uaps when the government has literally come out and confirmed they are their videos and confirmed they they do not know what they are. They won’t even click your link to a .mil url because they’re so far up their own assholes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk why these people are all denying these uaps when the government has literally come out and confirmed they are their videos and confirmed they they do not know what they are.

They're probably just trolling to anger others. Or truly ignorant of the confirmations.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think a lot of the people that completely write the UAPs off as a hoax, or dismiss them as a mistake, are at least slightly scared by the implications of what these observations could mean.

The UAPs seem to break our understanding of the laws of physics, and our military and intelligence communities seem to be genuinely stumped by them. Even if these craft are being controlled by an unknown government or group of humans, it is still terrifying that they managed to make such advancements while hiding them from the rest of the world.

I have always been pretty skeptical. I won't even try to begin to claim I know what these things are, or where they come from. Despite that, the evidence that they exist is getting pretty hard to deny.

I just can't think of another reason why so many people want to mock and avoid the topic, besides fear and angst. This could be one of the biggest discoveries or paradigm shifts of our entire history as a species, with or without aliens being involved.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The most likely scenario is von Neumann probes IMO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I would bet on the same.

Btw, if you are the og Poem_for_your_sprog from reddit, I just want to say thanks for the beautiful poems. You always made the comment section better.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For the person who downvoted, what's your reason why? I'm honestly curious.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Skinwalker ranch. Just look into it. There’s also a show which is quite good (although cheesy) but they do obtain scientific evidence of phenomena.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If actual aliens are here it basically means travelling faster than light is possible.

Not just possible, but dirt cheap, otherwise why would they be constantly dropping down into Earth to see what we're up to.

Really, the whole notion is a bit silly when you think about it rationally. If a society was advanced to the point of cheap FTL (which, I feel the need to point out, isn't just "advanced technology" but "technology that operates in complete defiance to our most fundamental understandings of physics"), why on earth would they be dipping into the actual atmosphere, doing landings, or flying by private aircraft? Surely a society with such breathtaking technology could drop a single spy satellite into orbit and get every piece of info they could possibly want about us, especially now that we're in the digital age.

I have no doubt that alien life of some sort is out there, very possibly it's even prolific (though that doesn't seem to be the case based on our admittedly limited observations of exoplanets), but there's no rational basis for thinking that an advanced alien society would have either the means, nor the motivation, to constantly pop down to earth to screw with pilots, farmers, etc.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I like to make up weird theories in my head about it not being aliens but alternate earth people. What if every time it is actually a first-time visitor not knowing what it's like here. They don't expect us to have anything capable of bringing their experimental craft down and we do, to their surprise. Hence they always have different looking craft, different looking bodies, etc.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

otherwise why would they be constantly dropping down into Earth to see what we’re up to.

Not because of the species, but because of the rare and unique planet?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

There’s no reason why aliens would match cartoony depictions made up in science fiction.

What, only homosapiens can troll others?