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I'm helping a family member build a pc. He wanted to use Windows because "Linux can't play games" despite me having a perfectly good gaming laptop running Linux that runs all my games, even graphically intensive ones.

2 days later, no game has been played yet. We can't even get steam to start. I even installed Arch on a sata ssd I donated just to verify the pc parts actually work (took less than an hour). It took 1 and a half days to even get the Windows 11 installer to get past like the 3rd screen.

Fucking fuck. Dealing with all this fucking bullshit is far worse than not being able to play a few trashy anticheat pay 2 win games. The anti Linux circlejerk is real.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

ROFL windows is the easiest thing ever to install. Same with steam.

Sounds like either you’re terrible with computers or you have some serious hardware issues.

Blaming it solely on windows is a joke.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

@Coreidan @PeterPoopshit ah, can you install windows without a microsoft-cloud account nowadays ? Please tell me how.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, I've set up several work computers without internet. You can make a local account on set-up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's kinda funny how many people have no problem at all with a cloud account on their phone but get a mild stroke when Windows asks them to create a Microsoft account.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Don't give it internet access during setup.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Have you actually installed Windows in the last decade? I mean from scratch, mind you.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, it's part of my job, it's super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, multiple times. It usually go this way:

  • the installer starts
  • I click on next a few times
  • it asks the key
  • next
  • next
  • nextnextnextnext
  • the desktop shows up about 20-30 mins later

It's literally a nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Not op. I installed windows 10 on my custom built desktop and my kids custom built desktop, on VM, etc. Have not had a problem and it was pretty simple overall. I'm sure some folks do have issues, though. Shit happens. Is windows 11 shittier for install? I've never had the desire to try :)

I've also installed various Linux distros on the above and a few other computers (Mint, Nobara, Fedora). Aside from Mint not working with my AMD RX 6600, no problems there either, really. And these distros installed easily.

Again, ymmv. I knew Mint would probably fail because the 5.19 kernel does not seem to like my GPU. That's why I switched to Nobara in the first place (iirc the 6.x kernel wasn't available at the time)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds like you have never installed linux

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I have installed many Linux distributions. What is your point?

If you’re trying to convince me that windows is more complicated to install then it’s pretty clear you’ve never installed windows.

At this point in the game neither Linux or windows requires more then a few mouse clicks to install their OS.

If you’re having trouble with either then you’re doing something very very wrong or using wrong/bad hardware.