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Apple plans to charge fees for sideloading (9to5mac.com)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Who would've thought? This isn’t going to fly with the EU.

Article 5.3 of the Digital Markets Act (DMA): "The gatekeeper shall not prevent business users from offering the same products or services to end users through third-party online intermediation services or through their own direct online sales channel at prices or conditions that are different from those offered through the online intermediation services of the gatekeeper."

Friendly reminder that you can sideload apps without jailbreaking or paying for a dev account using TrollStore, which utilises core trust bugs to bypass/spoof some app validation keys, on a iPhone XR or newer on iOS 14.0 up to 16.6.1. (ANY version for iPhone X and older)

Install guide: Trollstore

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My rationale is this: apple users love spending money, so they can go ahead and spend it.

Fuck'em.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I’m an Apple laptop user with a Linux server. I love Linux and have thought about switching many times, but I don’t for the following reasons:

My Apple computers have lasted me twice as long as any other brand I’ve owned, and they don’t really die—they just get so old that I want a new one.

I never have to worry about incompatible hardware at any time, nor do I have to check for compatibility before upgrading my OS.

They never charge for a new OS, all of their basic software is free, and in some cases better than Microsoft Office.

Whatever product I use from them, it is definitely going to feel high quality.

The screens are always really nice, and everything is guaranteed to look crisp and clear.

They cost more money, but it isn’t like they give you nothing for it. If Linux isn’t a great option for some reason, an Apple device is going to be much less exploitative with advertising and spyware than Windows is.

I understand where the hate comes from, but I wish some Apple haters would back up for a minute and realize that there are power users who have perfectly good reasons to like that hardware.

[+] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

A say “sad” because you could call me a “Google-hater” but never in my life have I wasted time shitting on everything anti consumer thing they do.

I use Apple products, think they're a shitty company, but who offer the best products in a world of shitty companies. And as someone who's used Macs since 2007, I've noticed time and time again how people will shit on me and my choice of computer while I never shit on theirs in return.

Do I bitch about Windows on the occasions I have to use it? Yes, of course, because it's fucking terrible/ not what I'm used to, but I appreciate that some people are happy to use it, or have to for whatever reason. My criticism of the OS isn't a personal attack on anyone who uses it.

But yeah, my choice of computer is a personal failing, apparently.

🤷🏻

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

Amen to that.

I’m yet to find a single thing I need to do on my phone that required a side loaded app too. I’m sure there are cases, and I am glad the option exists, but it isn’t like people with a normal iPhone are completely shackled.

I think a lot of power users out there would be pleasantly surprised if they took another look at Apple with a more open mind.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Apple MacBooks and iMacs don't have this side-loading issue like their mobile devices do. You can install anything you want to as long as it's supported on a Mac, and from anywhere you want. So they are more or less a more premium Linux variant. I'm not sure why you came in here thinking this discussion applied to non mobile devices.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The base of this chain I’m replying to says “Apple products”. The comment that I am directly responding to is calling out all Apple users. More broadly the thread is about phones, but this particular side stream was about Apple in general, and I was providing my two cents.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People like being fucked

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

True that. If people actually cared we would see better things in the world for example - Firefox dominating the market. Now I don't care if people use Brave/Samsung/Chrome/Vivaldi/Edge but the fact that they may all lead to Google dictating the Open Web sucks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

I love that you bring up web browsers as an example while saying that Apple users don’t care enough about the technological landscape. Safari is the leading competitor to chrome! Without those Apple users sticking to the browser they know on the system you ridicule, the problem you’ve identified would be worse.