Technology

59187 readers

2182 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.

Our Rules

Follow the lemmy.world rules.
Only tech related content.
Be excellent to each another!
Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
Politics threads may be removed.
No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots

founded 1 year ago

MODERATORS

[email protected]

468

App Store to Be 'Split in Two' Ahead of EU iPhone Sideloading Deadline (www.macrumors.com)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

138 comments fedilink hide all child comments

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[+] [email protected] -83 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

[removed by mod]

[–] [email protected] 40 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Apple will find a way to appease the dumbasses in Europe

I imagine Tim Apple's bottom is shinier than Bender's from all that kissing. One often wonders why people keep drinking the Kool-Aid from such behemoths. Must be something in the water.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

but there’s nothing in the law that states they have to let you sideload whatever you choose

That's pretty much exactly what the law does say.

The gatekeeper shall allow and technically enable the installation and effective use of third-party software applications or software application stores using, or interoperating with, its operating system and allow those software applications or software application stores to be accessed by means other than the relevant core platform services of that gatekeeper.

There's a provision for not letting the user actively break the device, but that's it. And it's couched in terms like "if strictly necessary and proportionate" and "provided they are justified", so it's not something Apple can apply on a whim.

[+] [email protected] -26 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

[removed by mod]

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago

It doesn’t say anything about specific software. They have to allow you to use third party stores, they don’t have to allow you to download torrent apps so that you can pirate.

Literally in the quote I posted...

The gatekeeper shall allow and technically enable the installation and effective use of third-party software applications or software application stores

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

There was a time, on Android custom roms, if you had pirated apps installed, they were uninstalled automatically. I see something similar happening here.

I'm sure Apple will do malware scans on third party apps, like they do on the Mac. But if they start uninstalling legitimate third party apps, that's going to be treated as "no allowing third party app stores" and the maximum EU fine for that is high enough to bankrupt Apple. They won't do it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

the maximum EU fine for that is high enough to bankrupt Apple. They won't do it.

I don't think Apple will remove side loaded apps at a massive scale, but let's be real. Apple is worth more than a trillion. If the EU fines them enough to bankrupt, they will just leave the EU and not pay the fine. US would go to war with the EU before they allow such amount of money to be transferred to the EU.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago

Meta has already got fined for more than a billion at one point for breaking the GDPR, which has smaller fines than the DMA. The US did not really do anything. The US will not go to war with its biggest ally over Apple, hell, it doesn't stop militarily supporting key regional allies over genocide.

Also, fines are not based on market capitalization, but on global revenue. How this would bankrupt Apple is not that the EU would bite off a trillion, but that they would grab a few bil from the revenue, and that would put Apple in the red, triggering selloffs and Apple's valuation evaporating.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Please step on me harder Mr.Apple!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

If less options is the only selling point of iOS, then it is a shit OS.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

there’s nothing in the law that states they have to let you sideload whatever you choose.

There is, actually. And there is much more, you also will be able to publish on the App Store without using Apple's payment services for example.

EU lawmakers are slow, but not completely stupid.