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This affects all browsers and not just Chrome, as the media falsely reported it. Mozilla just rolled out a fix, and Brave is looking into it. This bug is likely related to the "zero-click" iOS 0day that was reported by Citizenlab last week.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Aye so bottom line, we're stuck with what exists until new formats are forced upon everybody... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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was under the impression raw was universally supported

Raw isn't a format, it's supposed to just be unaltered stream from the imager, so every camera model is unique in that regard. But DNG is a way to describe that data so it's more readable to programs unfamiliar with the specific model. And well, some makers prefer to use their own proprietary models.

Although it's gotten better now that nobody buys standalone cameras so the makers can save money by not developing their own software.

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none of apple's formats are supported outside of apple devices (and i guess itunes for windows)

Actually AAC is mostly Apple's format and support for it is pretty great. I'm not super familiar with the details but it sounds like a similar situation as with webp.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Aye so bottom line, we’re stuck with what exists until new formats are forced upon everybody… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yeah... :(

Raw isn’t a format, it’s supposed to just be unaltered stream from the imager, so every camera model is unique in that regard. But DNG is a way to describe that data so it’s more readable to programs unfamiliar with the specific model. And well, some makers prefer to use their own proprietary models.

ah fair enough, i didn't know that

Actually AAC is mostly Apple’s format and support for it is pretty great. I’m not super familiar with the details but it sounds like a similar situation as with webp.

is it? i didn't think any android players supported it apart from specifically apple music? and i'm pretty sure ms' groove music couldn't play them^?^

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My bad here, I didn't mean AAC, but ALAC (lossless) and other Apple's own mp4 variants. Indeed not sure how's the support in core Android, although I'd guess ALAC should be since it's part of mp4 specification.

I haven't goofed around with it in a while, but some ~10 years ago when I was doing tech reviews I was looking into ALAC quite a bit and was surprised how nice it is, and apparently easy enough to implement that even lots of hardware devices supported it without even advertising it. Also 3rd party audiobook players can often deal with Apple's audiobook DRM.

Basically, Apple did surprisingly well with audio formats while also supporting some open formats (at least in hardware), so maybe that's also a reason why I'm not so adamant about formats being 100% free from the start, as long as they get the codec ball rolling.

But again it's been 10 years since I was looking into this closely so I'm very fuzzy on the details.