this post was submitted on 08 Jan 2024
134 points (89.0% liked)
Technology
59152 readers
2310 users here now
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
Our Rules
- Follow the lemmy.world rules.
- Only tech related content.
- Be excellent to each another!
- Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
- Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
- Politics threads may be removed.
- No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
- Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
- Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
Approved Bots
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Listen at 2:00, https://youtu.be/q0AcZkR_LUs?si=L-dbJasU5YRseIvD
I wouldn't call that "unrecognizable", it's pretty obvious what was sampled.
I agree
The chemical brothers were sued for this one song that had recognizable infringement. And despite that instance of copying/sampling, and presumably listening to many many copyrighted works in their lifetime, that doesn't invalidate any of their other works.
Artists/musicians can also "accidentally" plagiarize, meaning they "came up with" a beat or lick, not recognizing that it is from something they've heard previously until someone says "hey isn't that xyz".
Either an output is or isn't infringing.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/q0AcZkR_LUs?si=L-dbJasU5YRseIvD
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I'm open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Different court case. Galvanize was not discovered by an AI.
Honestly there are so many successful and failed cases against them I can't find it right now. But I remember an AI discovered sample being subject of a court case just after one of them died.
Uhhhh the chemical brothers are alive. And I can't find anything about this online.
It's happened, like I say I can't find it either now. It might have been the copyright owner who died. But fans use AI to find samples in old songs now. You can do it yourself.
Unfortunately copyright claims get buried as they don't look good for either party.
In principle though, do you consider an unrecognisable sample copyright infringement. Because I get the feeling of I put the effort in to dig and cite examples for you, you'd then just move on to claiming it's still somehow different if AI does it.
Nope, I do not consider an unrecognized sample as copyright infringement. Or, I don't believe it should be ruled as such by the courts.
If you can't reasonably recognize the source material, and it's so different that only AI looking at bits could identify similarities, that doesn't cross the threshold in my opinion.
I actually don't think most sampling should be considered infringement, assuming the new song is actually a new work.
It's all about how transformative the work is.