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Huawei Teardown Shows 5nm Laptop Chip Made in Taiwan, Not China (www.bloomberg.com)
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Huawei Teardown Shows 5nm Laptop Chip Made in Taiwan, Not China::Huawei Technologies Co.’s newest laptop runs on a chip made by Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., a teardown of the device showed, quashing talk of another Chinese technological breakthrough.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The facilities cost tens of billions of dollars and the equipment is export restricted. The PRC physically cannot build a facility without spending literally a trillion dollars to develop their own equipment.

Tsmc is building a 5nm facility in Arizona, it will cost $40B.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I get that it is expensive. My question was "if they..." not can or would.

I've had several interactions where people say "even if you moved a facility to China magically and brought all the people and they were willing, it would not work".

Now, I have no love for China but surely that can't be true.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

It's not. They don't currently have this kind of technology, but moving a tsmc fab to china with all of it's personnel willingly 'switching sides' would make it possible for them to learn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

With enough time and money, anything is possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

This is important, it’s expensive and hard but it also just takes a long time to make the foundries.