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Pika Labs new generative AI video tool unveiled — and it looks like a big deal::The new Pika 1.0 tool comes after a $55 million funding round for the generative AI company and is a big step up in AI video production.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Again, no worries for any misgivings or misunderstandings.

True, AI can't produce art (at least, we can agree that there will always be some absent quality from the product of a generative model that makes human art art), but it can produce many other things of value that does supplant a real person's product. Likewise, there are qualities of art that make it a commodity that can be sold - to pay the bills - that lessen and sometimes corrupts art. Some may even argue that Art can only be something that is done for the sake of itself and for no other purpose; it is good-in-itself. And funnily enough, craftsmen have been saying for literal centuries that machines can't reproduce that particular quality innate in hand-made crafts.

You also fail to mention the Luddites engaged with reality too, and didn’t just talk about ideology all day, like the average Twitter communist is wont to do.

I do remember mentioning, and possibly even advocating, for the Luddite course of action though. You're right, we shouldn't only sit around and talk shit about theft, we should also be doing the thieving ourselves and raiding the textile mills.

On theft; would I condemn theft if I didn't recognize private ownership to begin with? You're twisting yourself in knots; I can't help but think it's because you're trying so hard to 'getch' me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I realize you're not engaging leftist theory seriously here, but if you were I would recommend this paper on the topic of digital new media as viewed through a Marxist and political economy framework.

Regardless, I don't see the exploitation of user activity as a theft of 'personal property'(nor would marx), it is closer to the private ownership of common resources (i.e. private ownership of land and the resources on it, land being the platform where free human activity occurs, and the raw resource as the data being collected). A leftist might assert user activity and communication as a communally shared resource, not one privately exploited, and the resulting tools that utilize that common resource as one that is collectively shared, not privately owned.

Once again, it's not about theft

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

telemetry? The People's Telemetry?

Ah, now this WOULD constitute theft (or at least a severe invasion of privacy), since by all accounts a personal device is expected to be personal property, no?

I was of course referring to public communication shared on public social media (the kind used for model training, in case you've forgotten), not to the private activities one conducts in ones own house (as an example).

For one accusing me of reductionism, you seem quite good at it yourself.

Do let me know when you've had a chance to read that paper.

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