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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

The post I was replying to said:

That's meaningless if they aren't democratic

I get what you mean, but the other guy brought up democracy as if it was the be-all end-all solution. Countries that disprove OP's point about democracy being the solution are fair game.

Chinese people know they're being censored, though. That's the key difference. They know that the perspectives being presented are, by and large, coherent with national policy and most urban people either know how to flip the firewall or know someone who can - it's really not that hard. Sure, there is this nationalist block that doesn't want to do so, but when have right-wing people actually looked at content that doesn't agree with them, anyway?

Ask any random American what they think, and they'll go on and on about freedom of speech and blah blah blah... As if the large media organizations in the US don't all cite reports from "independent think tanks" that are conspicuously all funded by the same billionaires and manned by "ex"-US intelligence. See: the Atlantic Council. The US has been the world leader in manufacturing consent in a way that China and Russia can't really match. It's been impressive to see tbh.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Slava Ukraini, but only so long as it doesn't affect me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The semiconductor market is split into two elements: computing and everything else (sensors, power electronics).

Who do you think dominates the compute space?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, how would you propose Western countries help China with that? China's the world's leading producer of renewable energy technologies. It's not even fucking close, they just don't have the manufacturing capacity to meet their energy deficit. Meanwhile, the US has their panties in a bunch trying to limit Chinese technological development instead of helping China improve their industrial efficiency and decarbonize their grid.

Most notably, instead of giving China access to more efficient computers, the US basically threw hands and said "just throw more electricity at the problem because we're not helping"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

We also don't have infinite people.

As shown by Henry Ford a century ago, more hours does not correlate to more production. https://time.com/charter/6167989/ford-overhauls-its-work-practices/

Moreover, as shown by Britain, doctors will gladly still be doctors even if the pay is absolute dogshit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

How many famines do you think occured in China and Russia prior to communism? How many people do you think died because of famines in the decades prior to communism?

Famine in late 19th century/early 20th century China and Russia were a fact of life. They'd come ever few years, kill a few million, and then leave. That had been the case throughout history because subsistence farming isn't exactly a very robust system. How many famines do you think occured in the decades before the communist party took power?

How many famines would you guess occured in the decades after the communist party took power in Russia or China? What do you think the odds were that those famines would have occured with or without communist party intervention?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sure, that's a fair point. But that's not what IMEC is building. It makes this assumption that this 3-legged transit (ship from India-UAE, train from UAE-Israel, ship from Israel-Greece) would somehow be faster and/or cheaper than just going through the Suez. And, like, sure, let's accept that premise. In what world does 5 days in a 30 day transit even matter? This isn't cutting transit times down significantly because of port time loading/unloading and random customs bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

With what military lol

Hasn't the African Union already decided to not intervene in Niger?

France won't cause an international incident... right?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Again, literally nothing China or Russia could do short of literally executing the President come even close to what the US attempted to orchestrate.

Tit for tat assumes a fair response. China and Russia are being more than fair.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oh this doesn't read like biased journalism at all

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

There are actually stories coming out of Niger that suggest that the French tried to smuggle croissants into the embassy but were discovered by Nigerien police.

https://twitter.com/Sprinter99800/status/1701656176801231257

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

The same One Child policy that kept fertility rates stable at... 1.7? That One Child policy? Huh. Odd. You'd think that forced sterilization would do a bit better than that.

Anyway, by your own admission, China is improving with regards to its treatment of people (and, as you claim, improving by leaps and bounds), meanwhile countries like the US and Poland are taking multiple steps backwards? I see...

As for the false equivalences? You mean that of genocide, genocide, or genocide?

Something like 2 million of the 41 million Black Americans are imprisoned today (5%). In comparison, even the most pessimistic and anti-Chinese perspectives put Uyghur detainment at around 10%. While China still has affirmative action on behalf of minorities (and has for decades), the US recently banned such actions. While China gives indigenous minorities interest-free business loans, proportional representation in government, and affirmative action policies for higher education, Native Americans get... a big lump sum of money when they turn 18 that drives them towards drug abuse and gambling?

As for jailing dissent? Nevermind that you've apparently completely forgotten about McCarthyism and the Red Scare, the US has developed the world's most complex and complete infrastructure for manufacturing consent... To the degree that the invasion of Iraq, intervention in Yugoslavia, intervention in Libya and occupation of Afghanistan were all seen to be fair and justified enough to happen. When people expose the extents of American interference, they get exiled. Views that differ from government policy lead to arrests, more arrests, even more arrests, tear gas, more tear gas, rubber bullets. As for dissenters? Don't worry, the US is happy to organize coups of any country that deviates from American policy, particularly in South America. If it was democratic before, it can be right-wing authoritarian today.

Sorry, you were talking about a false equivalence?

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