Yes, all of those say that use of long range missiles within Russia would be the red line. And the reason it would be a red line is because this would be NATO personnel doing strikes directly into Russia.
no the definition of a liberal here is a liberal
Anybody who thinks a nuclear war between major powers would be an acceptable scenario is an utter imbecile and a piece of human garbage. Period. People why try to downplay the horrors of a nuclear holocaust are a danger to the human race.
NATO is objectively an offensive alliance that has invaded numerous countries. But since you are not debating in good faith, I’m not gonna spend more words and effort on this.
For sure, people internalize the dominant narrative and then everybody just repeats it to each other without really thinking about it. At the end of the day, most people want to fit in and they subconsciously adjust their views to match those of others around them.
Thanks, and you are very much on point here. The worst part is that propaganda is so pervasive that most people don't even recognize it. There's an anchoring effect at play here as well where people naturally assume that the society they grew up in is the natural default. Any deviation from that is seen as being extreme as a result.
Except we don't know better. We just have psychopaths such as yourself trying to convince people that a nuclear holocaust wouldn't be all that bad actually. Scum like you are driving us ever closer to nuclear annihilation.
that's right we have a solution for global warming
Literally linked you two peer reviewed western studies that say otherwise. You're the only one spreading propaganda here. The fact that you think this something that should be gambled with shows that you're a sick individual.
That's why avoiding a nuclear war is in everyone's interest. Yet, clearly plenty of imbeciles in the west don't understand that.
…I thought this was about Ukraine fighting back against the country that’s been invading it
That's because you're utterly ignorant on the subject you're attempting to discuss here. Ukraine is just a proxy for the US to attempt and extend Russia as the RAND paper puts it.
The role the west played in provoking the war is well documented https://www.mearsheimer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Why-the-Ukraine-Crisis-Is.pdf
In fact, RAND openly published a whole paper detailing why the US wanted a war in Ukraine in 2019 https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html
Yet, here we have you acting like a clown.
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No, I'm saying that we should seriously consider peer reviewed research on the likely effects of a nuclear war. Meanwhile, a bunch of idiots here are claiming that western peer reviewed research is Russian propaganda. The fact that you're claiming that I'm the one pushing an agenda is fascinating.
By the way, my agenda is pretty simple. I don't want to die in a nuclear holocaust. The more idiots try to downplay the horror of a nuclear war the closer we all get to one.