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@finitebanjo @melpomenesclevage If Biden had the debate performance in the primary that he had on the General he would have lost to a wet paper bag.

@Cryophilia I agree with you, that's why I voted for Harris, even though there are multitudes of major politicians I would support before her. But if elections were just about what was objectively best almost no elected officials would be in office. You have to at least attempt to play the game of politics and the DNC has flatly refused to do so the last three elections (and lost two of them).

This is the time to discuss that. There's a non-zero chance that the DNC tries to anoint someone like Tim Kaine like $insult to the nomination and then they loose to some Diet Trump person. And I really don't think waiting until 2032 to fix what's being broken today is a good plan.

@Cryophilia @crusa187 Harris failed because given the choice <%1% of Democrats would choose her as their candidate in an open, competitive primary. When she ran for the nomination in 2020 she got less than 1k votes nationwide, among female candidates she was 5th, and when Biden announced that he wanted a black woman VP, the logical choice was Stacy Abrams, not Harris.

Harris is a deeply flawed candidate who doesn't appeal to really any single group except maybe cops. And cops always vote Republican.

On top of that, without a primary, she lacked a fresh bench of exciting Democrats to recruit to campaign and join her staff (think of the way Buttigieg was an effective campaigner in the Rust Belt for Biden) and she didn't have a competent campaign staff who knew her as a candidate and had just figured out how to be a national candidate.

The DNC failed this election by not holding primaries for a Candidate that was clearly mentally compromised. And it cost them the election. If you replace Trump with "Generic Republican" it would have been a Reagan '84 level bloodbath.

@d00ery @MicroWave Truthfully, I think most of America is unaware of just how expensive these changes are.

@pete_link There's no way that couldn't be misused.

@SatansMaggotyCumFart Harris was also widely unpopular even among Democrats. When she ran for President in 2020 she received less than 1,000 votes nationally. She was on the ballot in California our home state and we couldn't get her over 1,000 votes.

She's just not a good electoral candidate. Had Biden dropped out late 2023 and the Dems held a primary with debates and such; she never would have been chosen as the candidate.

Harris could have had a any stance(s) she wanted, she was doomed to fail from the beginning.

@SatansMaggotyCumFart He was pretty far left for 2008. Support for Gay Rights/Marriage, Universal Health Care, a proto-energy New Deal, lobbyist refore (pre SuperPac Era), military pullout from Iraq were all on the left side of the 2008 Dem party and he ran hard on all those; especially in the primary.

@SatansMaggotyCumFart @pjwestin Obama was considered "far left" when he ran in 2008.