gayhitler420

I haven’t for one second tried to avoid evidence or deny it when presented.

Mostly because it was not presented.

But even if you were to say something like “well, there was this one thread with a title like blah blah and some grad users of banned for hate speech in it” that would be better than what you’re doing now, which is calling me names, accusing me of being a Nazi, making the accusation that I’m just not paying attention to what’s around me.

In the time we’ve been commenting back and forth you could have registered a sock puppet on grad, posted some Nazi shit and pointed to it!

So if you can even gesture in the direction of grad users who uphold the tenet of national socialism and say they hate the working class, why not do it? Why not prove your statements? Why deflect and try to change the subject and accuse and call names?

Why can’t you just back up what you say in even the tiniest way?

Okay so point at them so I can’t look away then.

Show even a sliver of evidence that grad users adhere to the tenets of national socialism or hate the working class.

I guess this post is calling me a white supremacist?

All through this thread I’m focused on learning what you have to share and in all your replies you obfuscate, try to change the subject, insult and accuse me of crazy stuff like this.

If you have anything to back up your claim that grad has adherents to the tenets of national socialism or users that hate the working class, please post it.

So far I’ve only been trying in vain to get you to provide a shred of evidence for your claim that grad users adhere to the tenets of national socialism and hate the working class. I even expanded it to pointing me in the direction of where to find it so you wouldn’t have to see something triggering or go offsite.

You can’t call me willfully ignorant in anything approaching good faith when I show the work I’ve done to educate myself about your claims and ask for help and you instead call me belligerent.

As I said before, I’m not trying to argue against the defederation. World can and has defederated from all kinds of instances for all kinds of reasons. That’s not what I’m interested in.

I’m not asking for evidence of the stuff that caused world to defederate from grad, I’m asking you to provide just the barest hint of direction about where to find evidence for your claims made in response to my comment in this thread which you posted.

You don’t think the trustworthy person making the accusation is the right place to start?

I don’t wanna snitch to your mods and I don’t care who they defederate or why.

I want to see the thing that you’re claiming since its so wildly different from what I’ve experienced and dug up.

If grad is Nazis that’s a big deal. Why not take even the smallest step to show how?

I’m not affected by the defederation. I’m on ee.

Why are you so hostile?

It’s starting to look like there isn’t any…

I’ve really tried to be kind and courteous to people when asking about this stuff but the level of pushback and runaround just in response to my comments in this thread are absurd.

When someone doesn’t see the thing you say is happening, what’s the big deal with showing them?

I’m not trying to win an argument or waste anyone’s time (a person could argue I’m wasting my own).

If there are posts espousing the tenets of national socialism, hating the working class or calling for nuclear genocide why not just link them?

I’m trying in what little free time I have to find evidence but it’s not forthcoming! I have to cast a wide net and that makes the search slow. If you know what to look for or where to look, tell me!

Unless of course it’s all made up…

I’m searching grad posts and comments locally for the word “nuke” and “nuclear” using new sort and there’s a whole lot of worry about states using them, some people saying more nuclear armed states would make everyone more careful and less violent but no calls for nuclear genocide.

Before I say this I wanna be as clear as possible: claiming that a whole group of people are Nazis that wanna commit nuclear genocide is serious. I’m not asking for evidence to waste your time, or to avoid doing my own searches. I have looked for myself and come up empty handed. The claims I’m seeing fly in the face of what grad says their standard is, what their modlog bear their standard out to be and my own limited experience with grad users.

I am posting here not to start a fight or waste peoples time, but because I’m open to being wrong and want to find out more.

Can you show me the comments calling for race based nuclear holocaust? If you can’t, can you point me to the instance I should search on or whose modlog I should look on to find them?

but i started this chain of comments with my own research and a request to see yours!

it can't be youre just making up accusations and replying in circles to troll me!

i don't know where to find it though. the things youre claiming don't show up in a search of the grad site. ill admit that just relying on the same text search every lemmy instance has for the words youre using isn't all encompassing, so if you can actually show me what youre claiming please do!

i'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but its hard when i ask to see the receipts and get the runaround.