curious_dolphin

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

This made me laugh... and cry.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Go ahead and roll for persuasion on your motion to abolish persuasion checks in healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

your actual wealth didn't change

Actually, it did—it was cut in half.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Looks like we are not going to agree on this, which is okay—I enjoyed the discussion nonetheless. Have a nice day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Fractional reserve banking does not mean the debt does not exist. The debt very much exists. Nobody takes out a loan and just sits on it. As soon as the loan is created, goods and services are traded. At the end of the day, each party to downstream transactions can go to the bank and withdraw the balance of their account in cash. The fractional reserve system only works as long as not everyone does this at once.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

When a borrower becomes insolvent and the loan cannot be repaid, the lender records it on their books as a loss. They cannot just pretend the loan never happened.

Of course, now we're mixing subjects because OP asked about student loan forgiveness, which would necessarily come out of tax payers' pockets (not the same as when a lender takes the L because the loan cannot be repaid).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The image is a poor analogy because unlike when someone creates an image or any form of art, when a borrower takes out a loan, the lender records a receivable as an asset and the borrower's account as an offsetting liability. Once this happens, the loan cannot then just be magically erased—somehow, some way, the lender must be made whole again. In the case of loan forgiveness, it comes out of the tax payers' pockets. Whether that's theft or not is a separate topic, and I think another commenter covered it well by comparing it to any other government program or subsidy.