abraxas

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Who said we’re important to them. You did: “If Trump somehow manages to win 2024 from jail, it’s our fault on the Left that he wins.”

Not our fault for non-voting. Our fault for making undecided voters see Biden as literally the same as Trump. Propagandists are not important to me, but I still oppose them at all costs.

You bet I am. Lesser evilism is a clearly failed strategy

So instead you just lie and pretend the lesser evil is the greater evil? Congrats, you must be young.

I saw where lesser evilism got us with Obama

I would fucking give anything if we had another boring Obama clone win in 2016. I have DACA friends. I have had many people in my life needlessly die or suffer under Trump. I used to follow a religion that George W Bush actively tried to get banned from legal US protections because he didn't like it. And you're telling me to my face that you approve of innocent people dying so you can punish Democrats for only giving the 5% of far-left 10% of respect. Tell me that to my face. Tell me you are happy with how things went. Until then, I will point out that Biden did more for the far-left than I ever expected. And he acted with extreme prejudice to protect the people I fucking care about most.

I'm guessing you didn't have a lot of family or friends directly devastated by Trump's actions? If so, how can you be so bloody heartless?

I recieve: a hawk candidate

You recieve: a third party vote

Ah yes. Perhaps the Green party. Most heavily funded by the Republicans because it gives them presidencies. I call this "taking the majority hostage".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

So are you or are you not advocating for the murder of Notch? If so, I will oppose you at all costs as I would any extremist. If not, then what exactly are you disagreeing with me about?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Social Democrat is “a supporter or advocate of a socialist system of government achieved by democratic means.”

That’s what a demsoc is. Social democrats support capitalism with social programs.

You should tell Webster they're wrong. And Wikipedia. And Brittanica.

By their definitions, a Socdem's insistence on using democracy at all costs is what differentiates between them and demsocs.

By why is it so important for you to insist everyone use your nonstandard definition of the terms? Also, your calling us "succdems" tells me exactly everything I need to know about your permission. If I'm not willing to murder people, I'm less than human to you enough to be given a silly nickname.

“Tankies don’t have a soul and they’re going to kill you first so it’s okay to let the nazis kill them actually” I’m a REAL leftist :D

At this moment, you're on the wrong side of the "First they came for" poem because you're the one rejecting the Left.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have my sympathy. Even when I was actively involved with pro-LGBTQ movements, there were people marching for rights that that didn't respect bisexuals.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I know, maybe Biden should agree with me on everything. That would be nice. But why should we treat everyone we don't agree with on everything the same as Trump? Do you **really ** think Trump did that little wrong? Or that Biden did zero things better than Trump?

I'm truly disgusted by this. This black-and-white categorization of anyone who isn't as Left as Me as "exactly the same as Adolf Hitler". Trump quite literally preached Fascism and actively campaigned (and acted) on hurting brown people and tearing down the environment for a quick buck. Biden ran on "more middle-of-the-road shit". They are not the same.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Who said we're important to them. Are you so willing to let the country go to shit if you don't get your own way? Trump's actions killed a lot of people I knew and loved, and permanently devastated the lives of a lot of people who didn't end up dead. I can't say the same of Biden.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting. I'm not a Tankie a tall. That's kinda the point.

with no gender and no country

Wow. How many people would you murder to preserve your precious gender identity?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Funny how you don’t have a real rebuttal so you’ve resorted to childish drawings of pig shit

"Funny how you don’t have a real rebuttal so you’ve resorted to childish drawings of pig shit"

You realize, to the rest of us, the far-right "do the research" bullshit is actually worse and more childish than actual drawings of pig shit, right?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Honestly, as the idiot who did give you a real rebuttal, I think he was the smart one to send you the pig shit picture.

Your argument literally included "having to wear a mask that gets my face a little sweaty" as fascism, and "eye strain" as a response to mass deaths.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

The right to infect and kill my neighbors so we don't have to get our cheeks a little sweaty from a mask. Obviously.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

And how many more committed suicide during lock downs?

Suicide rates go down during national emergencies. COVID-19 was no exception. Certain categories increased, but overall suicide rates went down due to COVID, not up.

How many children’s learning was negatively affect by distance learning? How many developed eye-strain staring at screens all day?

You're right. Eye strain is definitely more important than millions of deaths.

How many who were going to die anyways had to die alone cuz of social distancing? And

This was the proper response by hospitals using their expertise, not something Biden demanded. Now you're literally complaining about the effect of a global pandemic, not a country's response to it.

And you can look up for yourself the developmental issues masking had on children, who rely on facial recognition to learn how to function in the world and communicate with others.

Sure, and also the children of mothers who caught COVID. When schools reopened, COVID spread like wildfire and caused just as many educational and developmental delays as entire classes were stuck at home sick. Consistently, your replies are acting like everything this pandemic did can be laid at the feet of the government that tried to respond to it, as if "no response" would mean nobody would have gotten sick, that the medical establishments (that supported government response) would have done things more to your liking.

I want to make crystal clear, COVID terrified the experts worse than it terrified the government. Those of us with advanced warning had stocked pantries before the lockdown was even someone's bright idea.

And all those who died of covid were likely going to die of covid no matter what because they had comorbities, were elderly, or were obese and no amount of masking, vaxxing, or distancing was going to stop it because none of those things have been shown to stop the spread of the virus anyways.

This is filled with lies. You realize "obese" starts at a few pounds overweight, and obese people don't deserve to die either.

And you say masks weren't effective? Studies showed community mask usage caused a 70% drop in spread.. And that's just paper/cloth masks, the weakest mask you can get. If we had enough N95's for everyone and people didn't throw fucking "let's spread COVID parties" (yes, they actually fucking did), then the death toll would have been far lower. No, YOU wearing a mask isn't going to stop YOU from getting COVID. Everyone around you wearing a mask is going to stop you from getting COVID. If you don't think that's a good reason to wear a mask, you're a selfish prick.

vaxxing, or distancing was going to stop it because none of those things have been shown to stop the spread of the virus anyways.

Natural immunity didn't happen; by the 6 month mark most COVID patients have little protection against reinfection. Terrifyingly, people are just not keeping immunity to COVID. SOMETHING stopped the spread of the virus. And it wasn't something natural. Had no action been taken, COVID would have as many cases and casualties now as it did in 2020. Vaccines pushed the immunity rate to the magic 97% mark, where "herd immunity" starts to overcome the spread rate. Of course, now that people aren't getting boosters, the spread rate is going up. Luckily the new mutations don't spread as well as the original.

Its clear you’ve spent the last 3 years with your head buried in the sand

Would you have the balls to tell that to specialists who specialize in pandemic response? Prove you're not a troll, and admit that if the supermajority of actual experts disagree with you, maybe you're the one in the wrong.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

COVID-19 had the 5th worst death toll of any pandemic in human history, and is in the top 10 of global population lost. And that was with modern medicine and (with some Republican political exceptions) reasonably aggressive global response.

COVID-19 was bad, worse than most people seem to remember. I've got a pandemic-trained MCE expert in my family. Everyone saw it coming when they saw the numbers, and it happened worse than expected. Hospitals overflowing capacity from just critical cases. Tent hospitals being built. They fucking activated the mass-grave contracts to store the bodies. For the first time in nearly a century. Bet you didn't know that. OEMS doesn't publish actions like that because they don't want to cause further panic. It comes through a private email to paramedics (and, fwiw I thought this part silly, sent under a pseudonym that only people in the field would recognize)

For the record (not that I think you actually care about facts, but I'm putting this up there for neutral observers), the deadliness of a pandemic is not primarily driven by its death rate. Only an ignorant person would look to that first. A virus with a 0.1% death rate could end humankind. Many viruses with high death rates have less of an impact. Potentially more important factors are the spread rate (influenced by the incubation rate and contagiousness window), and immunity rates (both inherent immunity and acquired immunity). That COVID-19 was a COVID family of illness (cold family, no known cures, treatments, or immunization paths) made it worse.

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