Tinidril

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago

If you want to argue today that the Democrats aren't failures at fighting Republicans and specifically Trump, I would love to hear that argument.

There was nothing "shadowy" about the "anybody but Bernie" effort in 2020. They might have preferred it to be quieter, but I think just about every relevant detail of that scheme leaked, and it played out quite transparently. Are you arguing that it didn't happen?

It's not as much about competence as it is about perspective. The Democratic establishment is somewhat competently running strategies that are well suited for the 90s but completely out of touch with where voters are today.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Trump seemed to get through.

Democrats are forbidden by their patrons from using too much populist rhetoric. That's the number one reason why they fail to connect with what has become a very populist country, thanks to decades of wealth transfer to the top.

Bernie used populist language and the Democratic establishment pulled out all the stops to give us "anybody but Bernie". Now we are living the consequences.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 20 hours ago

I understood. My point was that there is no similar link related to the autocratic regime of Bolsonaro. Autocrats can often be defeated electorally even once they gain power. I think the situation in the US is closer to Balsonaro in Brazil than Hitler in Germany.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, Germany is a model worth considering, but so is Brazil. Autocrats aren't consistently capable of cementing their rule. Do what works for you, but I intend to stay and fight.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Until the next election is cancelled, I will be working under the assumption that it will happen. Fuck that defeatist crap.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

When it comes to this issue, you can't really say that Trump is that much worse. Either way Gaza and the West Bank were heading to oblivion. Rhetoric aside, there is no evidence that Harris would have ever stood up to Israel in any meaningful way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

There is always a bunch of relevant factors in the outcome of a national election. It's the job of the candidate to overcome those hurdles. If they don't, then they were the wrong candidate. It's not about blame, it's about how we do better next time.

I'd much prefer that Harris won, but it does warm my heart a bit that the Democratic establishment got fucked for their manipulation of the 2020 primary and subsequent forcing of a Harris run. If we are talking blame, then that's where it belongs. Fuck the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and the rest of the DNC corporate lineup.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Then the next time a MAGA-esque Republican came along, which would probably be in 2028 or 32 they'd feel free to completely take the gloves off.

And you think letting treason pass with no consequences isn't also sending a message?

The Republicans have no shame and aren't waiting for the Democrats to strike first. Take away one rationalization and they will just manufacture another.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It's happened before. You have to go all the way back to FDR, but it happened.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

You can't judge primary races like that. The final spread is irrelevant because of how the votes are spread out. The media calls it long before half the country has even voted, then the remaining votes always avalanche to the presumed winner.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not sure why this applies to what I said, but my few Republican friends and family are uncomfortably aware of what I think about their politics.

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