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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 minutes ago

Did anyone read the article? Besides the top 2, these amounts are paltry:

Data by MediaRadar showed that Comcast, which spent less than $1.5 million on X this year, was followed by Warner Bros. Discovery at $1.1 million, whose ads are supporting theatrical releases of movies, and Disney at under $550,000. Lionsgate spent less than $230,000, while IBM allocated under $2,000.

That's embarrassing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Oh yeah this has little to do with the original question about why bsky is more popular. This suggestion of "let people write their own algorithms" is for the devs who think algorithms are harmful. They aren't harmful if you give users the power to choose their own algorithm. Techie people can write the algorithms and non-techie people can choose them. Chances are a few algorithms would eventually become the most popular and very few would be written after that, but the point is you let the users decide instead of the Mastodon devs having to write the algorithms.

And now I realize bsky actually has something like this: Custom Feeds. If I understand correctly, they get around the "running untrusted code" issue by not running the code on bsky servers. Instead whoever wrote the custom feed gets the data from bsky, runs the algorithm on a separate server, then returns the custom feed. Pretty clever. https://docs.bsky.app/docs/starter-templates/custom-feeds

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was thinking along the lines of being given a list of popular algorithms, but if you find an algorithm you like on another instance you can copy it over to your instance. So it is not necessary to write code and nearly nobody would do it, they would just use ones that other people created.

But I realize this is an extremely difficult request so I'm not really serious when I propose it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

But it still won't put my friend's popular posts at the top, right? I don't want to scroll past 20 pictures of people's dinner and then find out one of my friends got engaged, I want the "I got engaged" post at the top because it's probably getting the most interaction.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

God yes. I used to share Lemmy links until I realized what a horrible UI I'm sending them.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

I think people are misunderstanding what I mean by algorithm. An algorithm could show you stuff from people you don't follow (yuck), but it could also show you popular stuff only from people you follow. That used to be how Facebook did it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

I didn't say it was a bad thing, I just said it's one reason Bsky is more popular. People are busy and want algorithms.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I'd you go to a post you are always told that the host server may have more replies

Just yesterday I opened a post on Masto that had 80 boosts. I went to my home instance to boost it, and it said 10 boosts. I get that things will sometimes be out of sync due to federation and I don't think those numbers need to be exactly the same, but that's a huge difference.

If you don't like the instance (why wouldn't I?) you can just move to a different one. Yes, and restart my network. It's not really a good solution.

Yep. I've moved several times and the process sucks. It's ridiculous that your posts and followers don't follow you. It's technically possible to do it: just give every account a public/private key pair for identity, and if you migrate to a new instance your public/private key pair come with you so you can prove that you are still you, and then there should be no problem bringing your posts and followers to the new instance. But despite the fact that switching instances is a core feature of the Fediverse, the process sucks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It looks like that's popular posts by anyone, not just by people I follow. So it's a start, but different people want to see different things so having a single firehose like Explore doesn't really meet the need. For me, I want to see popular stuff by people or hashtags I follow. Other people might want to see other things.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I didn't say refusing to have an algorithm was a bad thing, I just said it's one reason Bluesky is more popular.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

Exactly, a lot of algorithms on for-profit sites are manipulative trash but refusing to have any algorithm at all is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yeah being manipulated by algorithm is a problem. The best solution I can think of is Mastodon adding the ability to choose your algorithm. Not just a list of approved ones since the admins could manipulate that list, but the ability to actually upload some code so you can either write your own algorithm or choose one written by someone you trust.

That comes with a lot of problems like potentially overworking the server so I don't know if it's actually a viable solution but it would be nice.

 

Does ActivityPub send those to other instances, or does ActivityPub only send the original post and the rest (upvotes, downvotes, replies) are stored only on the original server where the post was made?

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