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Quake-like game made with JavaScript takes up just 13KB of storage in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s clear that you don’t agree with my original opinions. And that’s ok. But it really doesn’t seem so simple and clear. Take a look at the ratio of up to down votes.

https://programming.dev/comment/10313390

Quake-like game made with JavaScript takes up just 13KB of storage in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Thanks for pointing this out. I keep looking back at this thread as new people grow annoyed at my comments 🙂.

At the time I writing this, there are currently 15 upvotes and 28 downvotes on my original comment. That’s clearly negative and that’s ok. But that also makes it the third most voted on and the 4th most upvoted comment in the entire post. Seems there’s a very split opinion in the community here. This is now officially entertaining!

Quake-like game made with JavaScript takes up just 13KB of storage in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Thanks for the happy comment. But it’s all good. People are allowed to not like my comment. I’m not exactly swayed by the downvotes but maybe I could be just wrong here.

Quake-like game made with JavaScript takes up just 13KB of storage in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I am not

Quake-like game made with JavaScript takes up just 13KB of storage in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

Potentially. See my edit shove

Quake-like game made with JavaScript takes up just 13KB of storage in c/[email protected]

[+] [email protected] -10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (26 children)

Ok that is an impressive number but it feels a little disingenuous. You still need to something on your machine to interpret the js code, right? Is that included in the 13k? How much storage does that take?

EDIT: Well this is by far my most negative comment here. That’s almost entertaining. I’ll share a few more of my thoughts here rather than respond to individual comments. Maybe the context will make this more palatable.

First, I expect that the js language is doing most of the work here. Which makes sense. But having a browser installed as a prerequisite is an enormous dependency.

How would that stack up against other languages? Can I build a 13k binary using C? How about C#? I think Go is maybe the most interesting because the binary is entirely self contained by default. No external dependencies aside from the OS. I don’t think this or a similar game is viable with only 13k. Which is fine! I just that I find 13k is disingenuous.

That brings up the question of whether or not we should include the OS in the storage size. I would think not. But that’s only because the OS is (usually) the least common denominator when we talk about developing software. It’s generally assumed by default. But if someone wants to compare with a game that interfaces with hardware directly, then yes, we should absolutely include the OS as a dependency.

Now that I’m giving this more thought, I suspect that the devs wrote 13k of code + assets to make the game functional. Still impressive. But the more I think about this, the more meaningless that number gets. Does pre or post compiling matter more? What if we compress the thing as tarball? There’s just too many ways to manipulate this number.

"Maybe This is Too Cool" - After years of layoffs and pay/resource freezes, Amazon execs treat themselves to a private Foo Fighters concert worth millions in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Ya… being paid to perform isn’t immoral. Honestly, I hope he took a ton of cash from Amazon for the show.

Amazon is the crowd doing evil crap. Their immorality doesn’t automatically spread to everyone they interact with. Especially, people that aren’t actually aiding their efforts. This one is corporate waste

Soldiers in Ukraine say US-supplied tanks have made them targets for Russian strikes in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Wait. Who’s genocidal here?

Question: How does one open source their stuff? in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Open source software literally means that the source code is available to anyone. In GitHub, that just means that your repo is public rather than private. But your method technically doesn’t matter. You could publish to a forum if you wish. That’s still open source!

Free OSS just means that anyone is free to use and modify the source code for any purpose. The details are usually defined in a LICENSE file.

I feel like you’re really asking about the common practices and methods used in FOSS. Right? If so, that’s entirely up to you as the maintainer. As the project matures, you may attract other contributors which will in turn will motivate change to your tools and methods.

Start with what works for you. Model after similar projects if you wish. Adjust as change is needed.

Can you hear this video? MP4 embed in comment autoplays, but muted - no option to save/enlarge/unmute/open URL in browser in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Lol whoops. You’ve got it right. I fixed up my previous comment

Can you hear this video? MP4 embed in comment autoplays, but muted - no option to save/enlarge/unmute/open URL in browser in c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

The video plays for me as well but no sound. I’m using the PWA on iOS.