I said "setting aside what we think of Hamas" for a reason, if that helps you interpret my meaning, I'm just doing a bad job managing both impulsively responding after the conversation ran its course and also avoiding getting into a useless dispute about the main force of military resistance to an ongoing genocide.
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That's interesting. I clearly hadn't been giving those protestors enough credit, but the corollary of that is that Kamala, while an absolute zionist bastard, was still generalizing but not nearly as aggressively as I thought (there are definitely a bunch of triangles). I underestimated the ability of westerners to cut through zionist concern-trolling, even if not all present can.
Aside from the fact that she's clearly using it as an opportunity to make it look like the entire protest (and perhaps all pro-Palestine protest) took such a tact
pro-Hamas messages
If you mean "From the river to the sea" I swear to God
Dude, setting aside what we think of Hamas, I wasn't talking about Hamas, I was talking about people in America protesting against genocide being branded as terrorist sympathizers.
She "knows what's up," and has self-consciously chosen to side with genocide, branding all of its opponents terrorists or terrorist sympathizers.
Have they been supported by AIPAC? Surely, but them personally getting a check from a foreign lobby that is mysteriously allowed to exist in US politics is not a good explanation for what is going on. Israel serves a purpose extending America's power in the Middle East and terrorizing its rivals. If Israel was against America's interests in the region, AIPAC wouldn't exist and America's lavish cooperation with Israel would not be happening.
It's silly to act like individual values are some sacred, unassailable thing gifted to everyone's soul by the heavens, rather than something that came from a combination of inborn human traits and memories*, i.e. they are something that is contingent, changing, and in no way above being questioned.
It's also silly to act like it makes sense to just have a blanket acceptance of something if it's an "individual value" even though, when we look at the world, individual values can sometimes be extremely fucked up and we shouldn't allow people who would enact those values to abuse with impunity.
*"memories" is simplistic, but I don't think it is catastrophically so.
Telegram is awful, but that's mainly because it is readily bent towards the interests of malicious state actors like we see here. This headline is produced by two things being bad, not just one.
Ah, I see! Please, instruct me further: For how long will it be permissible to blame the Kamala regime for their crimes? For surely there will be a new Most Important Election of Our Lifetime next election, as there has been for at least the last three (and arguably the last dozen or more), and by this logic it would be terrible to imperil the that election as well. Shall it be whenever the new Republican we're calling Uniquely Fascist announces their candidacy, and/or when the media instructs us that an already-announced candidate turns out to be Uniquely Fascist? The election cycles seem to be starting earlier and earlier each year, so I don't expect you could produce a date for when it becomes unacceptable to state obvious facts, but surely something must tell us the window of time it is Ideal!
You must understand, this is all so very complicated, so it's good to have an Adult in the Room to help out us children.
right now is the exact wrong time to be raising alarm bells and turning blame toward the Biden Administration. It’s not that they haven’t made mistakes;
They haven't made mistakes. What they are doing is deliberate. They are not some oafish giant who tripped and fell and flattened a section of Gaza. They are continuously supplying bombs of all kinds to a military committing the one of the most well-documented genocides in history.
What's the correct schedule for blaming the material facilitator of a genocide for their actions, if you wouldn't mind instructing us plebeians according to your enlightened timetables? Is it the two years following an election but not the two years beforehand?
I couldn't possibly know your motivations, nor the author's, I just find your choice to whitewash racism disreputable. Maybe you just have such a burning hatred for EA that you think that it's expedient to run cover for racists -- I think you wouldn't be alone in that mindset, though not in good company either -- but I think it's silly to waste time on such speculation into the internal state of some random account. All I am concerned with is the result.
I find it unfathomable how someone can come to that of all conclusions. Obviously she doesn't have a commitment to it religiously or out of ethnic supremacy, but it's just as obvious that she's interested in being the slay kween on top of the bloodiest empire in history, and so she knows it behooves her to take care of all of its apparati for maintaining power.
When you're a top-level politician like Kamala is failing-up into being, Israel's appeal to you in not the chump change from AIPAC (not that you don't take that too), it's Israel's actual use, the reason that AIPAC is allowed to exist when virtually no other foreign lobby is, that being that it spreads chaos and destruction among America's enemies in the Middle East.
The idea that AIPAC effectively authored and single-handedly perpetuates zionism in the US political establishment is both antisemitic and just plain stupid. Where do you think they got the money from?! It didn't just spring from Palestinian blood or from being Jewish or whatever, that money comes from the US initially! Or by proxy from US resources. The money AIPAC has is circling back to the US like in a money-laundering scheme.