ExLisper

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

“And speed is the decisive factor in a car crash’s severity. Everything else — drunk driving, distracted driving, bad weather — makes crashes more likely to happen, but speed is the difference between life and death”

“Controlling speeds on roads is the most important goal of any car safety strategy.”

This only applies during the pandemic? What about the part about "any car safety strategy"? Sorry but if you have problems understanding a short, simple sentence then we don't have anything to talk about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (7 children)

Dude, everything I quoted were generic facts about speeding and accidents. Why do you think that because the article was written during the pandemic those things only apply during pandemic? Do you really have such serious reading comprehension issues?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (9 children)

No, it's not from the pandemic. Read it again. Do you think speeding kills people only during pandemics? Before the pandemic crashing at high speed was safe? WTF?

I also said I think cars should speed limiters installed. Read my comment again also. If a Porsche has a limited horse power and limited max speed it's fine. Do you think with limited it's not fun any more? Then we agree, ban fun cards.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

A hit dog will holler...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (11 children)

https://www.vox.com/22675358/us-car-deaths-year-traffic-covid-pandemic

From here:

"According to several traffic experts I spoke with, the explanation for the 2020 fatality spike is relatively straightforward: With fewer cars on the road during quarantine, traffic congestion was all but eliminated, which emboldened people to drive at lethal speeds."

"And speed is the decisive factor in a car crash’s severity. Everything else — drunk driving, distracted driving, bad weather — makes crashes more likely to happen, but speed is the difference between life and death"

"Controlling speeds on roads is the most important goal of any car safety strategy."

Do you understand? Not all crashes are the same. Slow speed crashes are not the main issue. You need to look at different statistics (and understand them). No, I'm not moving the goal post. Saving lives is the main goal, that's why I'm talking about speeding and not using the turn signals correctly. Speeding kills. If you disagree with this basic fact we really don't have anything to continue talking about.

Also: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/11/bmw-subaru-and-porsche-drivers-more-likely-to-cause-a-crash-study-finds

So maybe Porsche's are not that safe after all? And yes, you can speed in any car. I don't really care if you own Porsche as long as you drive below the speed limit same as I think you're an asshole for driving your Toyota Yaris recklessly. What I have issue with are all the wannabe race drivers practising on public roads. Personally I blame the stupid car culture promoted in TV shows and car magazines but there could be other reasons for it.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (13 children)

I'm not saying they kill the most people. Distracted drivers kill more people but you don't have TV shows that claiming that texting while driving is fun. Speeding is the second most common cause of accidents and it's absolutely is related to the entire "car culture" promoting fast driving and sports cars.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago

Ok, and when I have to take over someone please drive 1m behind me and flash your lights at me. It the least you can do.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Top Gear is just an example. Everyone loves them but I think shows like this, and they specifically, cause of a lot of harm to many people.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I did. I though more people die in car accidents but I've checked the number and no.

Also, If you enjoy driving below the speed limit and without any sudden manoeuvres then I have no issue with you enjoying your ride. I think it's obvious that's not what I have issue with.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Great, as long as we agree you should never drive above the speed limit I can agree that there definitely are some roads where the speed limit is set below the maximum safe speed.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (15 children)

one that inherently carries a small amount of risk

To other people. I'm fine with them driving on a racetrack. I'm not fine with them promoting sports cars on public roads. I know they never say "speeding on public roads is fun" but the entire car culture they promote comes down to reckless driving really. And your hobby should never put other people in danger. Any other hobby that would sometimes kill bystanders would be banned. Also, millions of people die in car accidents, big chunk of them because speeding. The risk is not small.

As to what "fun" car is I'm not going to get into definitions here, I'm not writing a law. I think it's clear what I mean. Most people drive under the speed limit, don't accelerate or break suddenly, don't take turns at high speeds. Driving for them is a normal activity. Other people do all those reckless things because they think it's "fun". Yes, you can drive recklessly in any car but some cars specifically promote it. I'm not talking about specific models, more about the idiotic car culture in general.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not saying all speed limits are set perfectly. I'm saying it's not up to you to decide which ones are 'safe' to break. The driver that think they know better than everyone else are the most dangerous ones. Even if you think the limit is set tol low just follow it, ok? Is it so hard?

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