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[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That you choose to kill a dog because you’re unequipped to train it doesn’t mean you are smart or tough, it means you’re stupid and reactionary. Today’s GQP.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Literally trained it to hunt pheasant and then shocked pikachu face when she takes it to visit the neighbor's chickens. Blaming others for your own failures in the cruelest way possible.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Fucking hell, that article describes a 14 month old puppy acting like a puppy and this piece of shit just decides to shoot it because she can't be bothered with training.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Personal responsibility is only for poor and/or brown people.

The rich white folks are victims of circumstance when something bad happens. It's never, ever their fault.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This woman is a psychopath.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Obviously. That's a minimum requirement to be a Republican politician these days.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

A reflection of their constituents to boot.

... Well, okay. Not all are psychopaths. Many are just naive, low-educated, and grifted.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not all are psychopaths. but they're OK with being ruled by them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Why does this asylum keep putting all the cool people in the locked rooms?

- People who vote R, probably

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because those damn gay commie libruls hate freedom, obviously.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

"Look I stand up for individual freedumb and small guv'mint and minding yer own beezwax... But I draw the line when I'm forced to see two men that ain't me holdin' hands or having to call someone a different name than they want, like Jon over Jonathan! The audacity!1!"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Honestly even if they do care about the puppy, it's still acceptable to them. They'd eat their own shit if it meant a lib had to smell their breath.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago

She includes her story about the ill-fated Cricket, she says, to illustrate her willingness, in politics as well as in South Dakota life, to do anything “difficult, messy and ugly” if it simply needs to be done.

Holy fucking shit this is chilling. "If something is bothering you, Dear Leader, don't worry. I will murder to make that stop."

[–] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago

Jesus... "I am a complete failure as a pet owner, let me tell you how..."

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago

In fiction, a character killing a puppy is short hand for irredeemable monster. Its one of few lines that when crossed, the audience will not accept their possible heel turn. It is a fundamental human trait. Even in situations where a hero kills an attack dog in self defense it’s imperative that not only is it emphasized that the hero has no choice, but the necessity of this situation negatively impact the hero, specifically to not lose the connection with the audience.

For example, The puppy getting killed in John Whick was in the story because the audience would find rooting for John as he goes on a prolific murder spree hard just because he got beat up, and has his car stolen. But after the dog died, you have literally everyone immediately primed for a 2 hour reverse horror movie.

I say this because you currently are seeing a political party using the unnecessary murder of a puppy for the sake of convenience and as a show of … “ChArAcTeR” to speak to their base.

An individual may be psychopathic which could be considered a medical condition. But for a political party? Thats mask off.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

Importantly, Trump sees his political opponents as dogs:

‘Like a dog’: Trump has a long history of using canine insults to dehumanize enemies

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (4 children)

So… about that theory of mine, that trumped picks his VPs based on best blowjob….

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

“…yes Mother…”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So there's hope for Stormy Daniels to run? Can't be worse that these psycho clowns.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That would be nice. That way if Trump kicks in office we'll have our first female president and she'll be perfect for the GOP. After all, it was their lord and savior, Saint Reagan, who said "Someone once said that politics is the second-oldest profession. I'm beginning to think it bears resemblance to the first." By that metric she is well suited for Republican politics.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t think she’d agree to be his VP after all this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If only Nancy was still alive…

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

The Throat GOAT of Hollywood!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (2 children)

What’s wrong with giving the dog to a shelter?! So an actual human being can raise it properly and train it? This is psychotic behavior. Even more psychotic to brag about it in a book.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Because her mentality is that animals' lives have no value beyond the utility they bring to humans. It's a surprisingly common one.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

But she says good politicians wouldn't admit it! That means she's one of us!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Next up: Supreme Court declares Trump a living god. The living god demands a sacrifice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not saying her actions are right, but I live in a rural area and people personally shooting their own dogs and other animals that are deemed a danger is pretty common. People often do it when the animals need to be euthanized for health reasons too.

I personally know lots of people who do this. I have plenty of family members who have done it.

Again, I don't think her actions were appropriate. I just want to point out how commonplace shooting ones own animals is (in some places) since a lot of people here seem totally unaware.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

BS I was born in SD. The only time that I saw a dog being shot was when it was rabid. There are humane ways of doing things. And Kriste lives in a mansion, not in a rural setting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Just to reiterate, I'm not saying it's right. There are absolutely better ways of addressing these issues.

But I don't know what to tell you--I don't live far from SD and I have personally spoken to multiple people (face to face) that have done exactly what Kristi Noem described.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

She didn't do it because the dog was sick or dangerous. She did it because she didn't care about it anymore. So, instead of giving it up for adoption, let's just shoot it!

Not justifiable.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm not justifying it. I don't think it's justifiable. I just wanted to bring up how common this behavior is in some rural areas.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This convo (though subject matter feels worse) seems similar to explaining the whole ivermectin thing to people calling it horse paste mockingly. Yes, using ivermectin as an unproven cure for covid is a bad idea, but no need to mock it with horse paste. Lots if rural and poor areas will use ivermectin from vet or farm supply shops and it is still useful in killing what it's meant to kill, such as those parasites that cause blindness in river water.

Rural places often don things that seem strange other places, and carrying out euthanasia yourself may be necessary or common in farming areas with little access to the same facilities urban and suburban people enjoy. It's probably easier on the mind of farm owners as they deal with animal death more often, and since even pets may end up seriously harmed by wild predators mercy killing probably happens too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not right. People that treat animals that way are not in rural areas with friends. Maybe you're living in an area where they do that sort of thing, and it's not met with scorn.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I'm in complete agreement with you.

I just wanted to bring up a big cultural difference I've seen in my area that people seem to be unaware of.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I'm waiting for the "shook newborn causing SIDS candidate…" /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


But in 2024 Kristi Noem, a strong contender to be named running mate to Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican nominee, has managed to go one further – by admitting killing a dog of her own.

“Cricket was a wirehair pointer, about 14 months old,” the South Dakota governor writes in a new book, adding that the dog, a female, had an “aggressive personality” and needed to be trained to be used for hunting pheasant.

What unfolds over the next few pages shows how that effort went very wrong indeed – and, remarkably, how Cricket was not the only domestic animal Noem chose to kill one day in hunting season.

Like other aspirants to be Trump’s second vice-president who have ventured into print, Noem offers readers a mixture of autobiography, policy prescriptions and political invective aimed at Democrats and other enemies, all of it raw material for speeches on the campaign stump.

She includes her story about the ill-fated Cricket, she says, to illustrate her willingness, in politics as well as in South Dakota life, to do anything “difficult, messy and ugly” if it simply needs to be done.

Then, as the chickens’ owner wept, Noem repeatedly apologised, wrote the shocked family a check “for the price they asked, and helped them dispose of the carcasses littering the scene of the crime”.


The original article contains 735 words, the summary contains 221 words. Saved 70%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Killing animals is how every serial killer got started.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Wow they are really milking this “VP candidate writes about killing her dog” angle.