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In this niche case the Vision Pro seems like it has some compelling benefits.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I was expecting to see something more interesting. Looks like he basically just used it to float a monitor and Apple Notes over the patient. Which surgeons usually just do with a LCD display and a VESA mount arm on the ceiling.

I guess the cool thing is that you don’t need to touch a display. It’s all hands free and super sterile. That said, it’s not doing anything that you can’t do now for 1/4the the cost.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Maybe true, but even at $3500 the Vision Pro would be about the cheapest thing in the operating theater anyway.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Except that they only allow one account right now, and you’d need one for each surgeon.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And even purchasing for each surgeon is really not a big problem, you have disposable items that cost more sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you think the American insurance markup on ibuprofen is laughable, wait until you see the bill for the Apple Microfiber Polishing Cloth.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Fair enough on the multi users front, didn’t consider that.

That said, this does look like a great QoL for surgery, theres people with personal portable ultrasound probes in the same price bracket (a much more questionable choice tbh, bringing in personal diagnostic equipment is asking for trouble), can totally see a surgeon buying this for personal use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You could simply have an OR account, could preload all scheduled notes and bobs your uncle, its also viable as a personal purchase.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Multi users is a known pain in the ass with VisionOS 1.x. A lot of the device gets calibrated to the wearer’s eyes, and without proper multi account support, switching is a pain in the butt. Which is why there is a janky guest user mode.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I think it's still cheaper if they're at retail prices. I'm sure Apple has a way to sell the exact same thing as a medical device instead and they're tens of thousands for each.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Plus I would imagine a huge benefit is that you can use the UI for this without needing to physically touch anything that would get your hands contaminated or get the device dirty either. Pretty amazing stuff!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What would be really cool is if you can start to place virtual stereoscopic and volumetric displays over a patient. That way you were not just getting sterility, you were getting access to better visualization.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I’m sure as this type of AR tech evolves that’s the kind of thing we’ll see. It’s pretty cool.

Apple Vision is not the game changer, it’s an expensive dev kit. The tech still needs to shrink quite a bit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

This use actually makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Hopefully it does processing totally offline

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Makes sense, I bet there is better product fit for this in future but its cool to see first adoptions.

Sterilizing that would be a bitch, was designed for level ofreliablety I would be comfortable with for surgery, and as with all medical equipment it should be bought with right to repair in mind (not the current practice and its an active problem).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

What are the HIPAA implications of that?