this post was submitted on 15 Oct 2023
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Currently you don't get notified you got banned.

If I was able to transfer my block list, I'd like to try an instance with more up time, but I don't want to ban evade. How am I even supposed to find out? It's not plausible to go through modlogs of every single federated instance looking up my nickname.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think so. At least not easily. You'd have to check the mod logs for each instance.

Besides that: If you already know you got most likely banned, block the community and just don't interact?

How the hell did you get banned from the Science Community anyway?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait, I'm banned from a Science Community? TIL. I only know I got banned from .world for my meme and solely so as someone else has told me. I don't even know if I got banned, hence the question. I was surprised by the .world ban.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, I misread then. You got banned by the entire .world instance, not just a community??

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes, it's in their instance modlog, and, again, I solely was made aware by someone else seeing it. I cannot tell if I'm banned anywhere else. I find the decision silly, but I don't have any intention of evading any bans, so I'd like to be able to inform admins to ban me again if I move instances. I'm currently looking into a new instance to choose, because even as we speak, I keep experiencing .ml going down and up and down and up...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Sprite I don’t think this is really possible in a distributed system like Fediverse since there isn’t a centralized list of bans.

You’d have to go to every instance one by one asking if you’re on their ban list, and since that list of instances is huge and changing by the day it’s just not practical under the design of this system.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it make more sense to make it so system automatically sends users notifications if they were banned or if their posts were removed? Currently moderation is really pointless since the offender doesn't even know they did something wrong.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Sprite I could imagine two schools of thought on that.

(and I’m not saying one is right or not)

The other side is I imagine a ban represents an intention to disconnect, including the connection that would be required to let the person know they’re banned.

That also avoids drama that a misbehaving user might stir up in response to the ban.

Technically, in this distributed system, banning is more about ignoring someone. Instances can’t trust each other, so by keeping banning on the receiver side instead of the sender side, the ban-er has more control over the banning.

Moderation in the Fediverse is about making sure MY users on MY instance get the experience they want, regardless of what any other instance does.

It all comes down to the distributed structure here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Moderation in the Fediverse is about making sure MY users on MY instance get the experience they want

If that were true, we wouldn't be having so much user migration. So far moderation on fediverse lacks any transparency and frequently appears to be power tripping.

Moderation in the Fediverse is about making sure people see what I, the moderator or admin, wish to be the only thing visible to them.

Otherwise, block function exists.