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A ringleader in a global monkey torture network exposed by the BBC has been charged by US federal prosecutors.

Michael Macartney, 50, who went by the alias "Torture King", was charged in Virginia with conspiracy to create and distribute animal-crushing videos.

Mr Macartney was one of three key distributors identified by the BBC Eye team during a year-long investigation into sadistic monkey torture groups.

Two women have also been charged in the UK following the investigation.

Warning: This article contains disturbing content

Mr Macartney, a former motorcycle gang member who previously spent time in prison, ran several chat groups for monkey torture enthusiasts from around the world on the encrypted messaging app Telegram.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is truly sadistic behaviour. Considering how close they are to humans as well...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're only getting 5 years in prison. The article also says Macartney had been in prison previously. Since the US prison systems are designed for sadism and punishment, it probably did more to make the guy amenable to this kind of horror. It's also known that slaughterhouses frequently get their workers from the prison system, so it's very possible that this guy will simply have his unapproved abuses exchanged with ones that our society sanctions.

When he comes out, his mind is most likely to be more disturbed than when he went in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

And every person here who still consumes animal products is a hypocrite.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Posted from your Chinese slave labor built electronic device.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

I have a Samsung device, so it's likely from Vietnam. Other than that I, like most Linux users, live on a steady computer diet of used Thinkpads.

Now that Fairphone is available in the US I will likely go for those in the future. Or maybe a Linux phone if one gets good enough. Is there evidence of unethical work practices in Samsung's supply chain?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I think there are other more modest proposals then quitting meat.

Be a part of the solution!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Currently billions of animals are raised in atrocious conditions and slaughtered against their will, for food, every year. This alone should be reason enough to want it to end, but the problems don't end there. Most of the top causes of death in industrialized nations is the result of lifestyle diseases such heart disease, stroke, diabetes, and cancers. The main drivers of these diseases is overconsumption of animal products. In other words eating animals is the leading cause of death in humans.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/56984912-the-proof-is-in-the-plants

To make it worse, food deserts in low income areas results in disproportionately higher incidences of these diseases and causes of death for black people, indigenous people, and all persons of color.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ixJ3YcmZg&pp=ygUldGhleSdyZSB0cnlpbmcgdG8ga2lsbCB1cyBkb2N1bWVudGFyeQ%3D%3D

even worse, animal agriculture is one of the worst sources of environmental destruction. It is one of the top causes of climate change, the single largest cause of deforestation, and causes rampant pollution.

https://www.surgeactivism.org/aveganworld

And again, it gets even worse. Not only is it strongly arguable that consumption of animals and their products is the cause of the covid pandemic; animal ag is also the leading cause of antibiotic resistant diseases, and if it's allowed to continue it will only be a matter of when, not if, we end up with an H5N1 pandemic - a flu that has a 50-60% death rate. This should be reason enough for governments to outright declare animal agriculture a threat to national security, and pursue strong policies to transition away from animal consumption as rapidly as possible.

https://www.surgeactivism.org/notifbutwhenbirdflu

When something is this bad, aren't modest proposals the last thing we need?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I've yet to see a proposal more convincing to me than just avoiding animal products altogether. Don't get me wrong, I used to enjoy things like meat, dairy and eggs, but I realized the cost far outweighed my own pleasure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Dairy and eggs don’t kill animals in a cruel way. It’s animal exploitation yes but who amongst us aren’t exploited?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

You never seen an egg laid without a shell because of the stress the chicken is under huh?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Death penalty would be appropriate here. I'm not a believer in general but what else can you do with this human trash?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Throw him to the monkeys.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Wow, I’m shocked that somebody doing such horrible things would take the time to support “states’ rights” as well!

…well, not that shocked.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Mr Macartney has cooperated with investigators from the Department of Homeland Security and agreed to plead guilty to conspiracy charges. He will formally make a plea later this month and is facing up to five years in prison.

WHAT THE FUCK. 5 YEARS?!

FOR SEXUALLY ABUSING, TORTURING, AND MUTILATING ANIMALS FOR PROFIT?!

And of course hes a MAGAt. Fucking soulless, worthless cumstains on the fabric of society.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Distributing 500 grams of cocaine? 5 year prison sentence.

Distributing 5 grams of cocaine cut with baking soda? 5 year prison sentence.

Sexually abusing, mutilating, and slaughtering animals in the most sadistic methods imaginable? 5 year prison sentence.

American criminal justice system is extremely normal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I gotta admit, I was blissfully unaware that this was a thing. I really did not expect to read a headline like that this morning.

What in the fucking fuck is wrong with people? This motherfucker needs to spend the rest of his life behind bars. The biggest sign of a person becoming a serial killer is their treatment of animals. I mean, he's already been to prison, so it's not like he has any interest in being rehabilitated in prison.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yay for prison. And crush his balls first.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This sounds cruel and unusual.

Please do not forget that we are NOT him.

Sometimes the hardest thing in life is to be a portrait of yourself, rather then a mirror reflecting the world around you.

My paint is fading...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well I am shocked that a person like this would be A Trump supporter and love the Confederacy. /s

He should be up for now than 5 years. This is completely fucked.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He didn't do the actual stuff though, he got people in Indonesia to do it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Congratulations, you’ve figured out what a distributor does.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay? People in the comments are talking as if he's the one doing the torturing and killing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Alternately, you're talking as if facilitating the whole network, including the torturing and killing, is somehow better than doing the actual torturing and killing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes, running chat groups is not as bad as actually torturing and killing monkeys.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Organizing the torture of hundreds of animals is better than torturing one animal yourself?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Okay, you must be trolling. No one is this stupid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not. Take your own advice.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You called me a troll and stupid. Yes, you are.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I genuinely didn't expect to find someone defending the torture king earnestly, I think my words were justified

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Except I didn't defend him. Try again.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Monkey torture network WTF

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I presume it's owned by Fox.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Vince McMahon would be into it given his long and storied history of brutality against his staff.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nuke us from orbit, it’s the only way to be sure

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Working on waking up the Old Ones over here, will speed up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You see, sometimes you see some fucked up shit in a movie and you think "oh ok, this is just for the sake of story, there's no way this has ever happened in real life"
Then you read an article like this.

The groups were used to share ideas for custom-made torture videos, such as setting live monkeys on fire, injuring them with tools and even putting one in a blender.

How... How do you even come back from this? Is there any hope these people can get rehabilitated? I'm struggling to believe the answer is anything other than "NO."

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

How… How do you even come back from this?

The sort of shit a 12 year old would come up with in a video game in an attempt to shock one's friends made manifest IRL by grown ass adults.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

...what part of Virginia