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I took it out of the meme to avoid seeming cluttered, but I must mention that they don’t just want USian corporations to have the monopoly. Renewables are at odds with capitalism and capitalists know oil is more lucrative than less labor intensive alternatives. Ted Reese makes a strong explanation for the lack of adoption of hemp and solar in SoE.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wow! Imagine if China implemented a policy to prevent people from having kids, or had a giant monopolistic corporation that didn't care about green energy! That would be horrible!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

That's the most pathetic lib gotcha I've seen in a while. The one child policy made sense at the time considering the low development they started with and the time it takes to build up and support a bigger population, but you know there were exemptions for minorities and it's not a thing anymore. Second thing, idk what you're talking about, but yes bad corporations do business in China. That doesn't take away from the fact that the PRC is doing way more for the climate than the rest of us.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where's all the "solar panels and batteries are just as bad as oil" people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Tbf there is a resource extraction problem, but that is significantly higher in the "we just need to line Elon Musk's pockets so more people have cyber trucks" approach than the "you can have a good EV for yourself if you want but we also have great public buses and trains running on renewables" approach.

Edit: the book that I mentioned criticizes both approaches and offers an interesting hemp based solution. I think it's right and hopefully China more hops on that train. Anyway, I forgot your original comment mentioned it being "just as bad as oil" which is blanketly absurd.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Did they subside it that much? They are highly subsiding solar power and EV, but sadly that's all over a drop in the bucket.

~~And also they're mostly doing the above to destroy non-chinese companies on those markets but that's something else entirely~~

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I’d call half a trillion in a year a lot. Nonetheless I agree so much more needs to be done especially in a collaborative way, but isolated China’s holding their weight especially compared to the United States and Europe.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where are you getting all your news? Xinhua? XD. Cause I don't believe for a second this is a genuine fact.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’ve done a decent amount of research thank you very much. If you want I can put up my sources once I get the chance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I would like to see that, yes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Lovely, here's the source list from my project from last year:

https://www.mybib.com/b/1J6ko1 (too big to paste on here)

Yes, I used Xinhua, simply to learn about Xi's youth.

Unfortunately, It's a little outdated with the progress they've made in the last year. I didn't cite them, but there's also the "at what cost" meme articles saying China growing more forests and public transportation is a bad thing.

You may not believe it, but we know the Secretary of the Treasury does from her recent comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The COAL that is being burned in china to power those "green" electric cars and other electric stuff is kinda ignored here. China consumes literally 50% of coal produced in the world. Im not saying its much better in other places because instead of coal they use gas which is a lot cleaner but still bad. Calling china green is like calling saudi arabia green.