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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

From the abstract:

Projections based on education and income as drivers of fertility decline ignore the reverse causation, that lowering fertility through family planning interventions enabled economic advancement and improved women’s education access

Interesting. I'd noticed that the best-known projections were unreasonably optimistic in some ways when you look at them in detail, but this angle is novel to me.

[–] Phytolacca 2 points 6 months ago

voluntary family planning provision and promotion achieved rapid fertility decline, even in poor, rural and illiterate communities.

I'd assumed that family planning was more quickly adopted in wealthier areas where people had greater expectations that their kids would survive. Interesting to learn that that's not necessarily true.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, a Queensland university would publish microwaved Malthusianism and call it a day. 10 billion people is possible, we just need socialism.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

10 billion is possible but so is 16 billion if we all eat cardboard and roach pellets. we are already over carrying capacity socialism doesnt prevent people from continuing environmental destruction. A socialist ~~Iphone~~ ..ahem.. WePhone^TM^ destroys the environment just as much. we are already ballls deep into a mass extinction, giving the proles more money just accelerates the ability to be rapacious shitbags.