this post was submitted on 17 Aug 2023
2 points (100.0% liked)

Linux

47361 readers
1020 users here now

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

Distributions include the Linux kernel and supporting system software and libraries, many of which are provided by the GNU Project. Many Linux distributions use the word "Linux" in their name, but the Free Software Foundation uses the name GNU/Linux to emphasize the importance of GNU software, causing some controversy.

Rules

Related Communities

Community icon by Alpár-Etele Méder, licensed under CC BY 3.0

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

My laptop is getting old and i can't have Element eat up half of my RAM. There are many more clients out there but which one is good? aka "the best? ;-)

My requirements: lightweight, encryption 100% supported, active development/community. runs neatly 24/7 in the background.

Should also support the latest features, let me customize when to get notifications: priorities / muted chatrooms. And ideally also look clean and run on the Pinephone. But that's optional.

I don't care which desktop environment or cli.

What do you use?

top 14 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you tried Nheko? I switched to XMPP some time ago, but when I used matrix Nheko was my goto. Also gomuks is another choice, runs in terminal

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why the switch to XMPP btw?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Better native client support for the most part, but xmpp servers also show themselves better (faster, more stable...) than matrix.org I think more matrix users should consider using smaller instances tbh

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think more matrix users should consider using smaller instances tbh

Matrix on smaller instances suck because of how bad the protocol is. It "re-plays" the entire history of the channel on first join because channels need to be consistent between all instances because Matrix isn't just a mediocre chat protocol but a generic data protocol that's been beaten into the shape of a mediocre chat protocol.

It tries contacting every instance in a channel for their keys. Even the dead ones. And yes it takes exactly as long as you think it does for them to time out. Dendrite solves this by asking matrix.org for everyone else's keys by default.

But because channels are completely synchronized at least you get to easily migrate channels between instances just by assigning an alias and telling people use the alias to join instead.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Woah, didn't know that! I remember searching for older messages in Matrix be really bad. I only use IM software for 1to1 conversations, so I probably don't know the worst of the protocol.

Dendrite solves this by asking matrix.org for everyone else’s keys by default.

Sounds a bit too centralized for me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sounds a bit too centralized for me

You can turn it off however that makes join times to any channel with history (say... the dendrite release announcements channel for example) unbearably slow to join.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I look forward to the day that Synapse is deprecated in favor of Dendrite or Conduit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try gomuks. It's cli written in go. Highly configurable and if your terminal supports images, it'll show them too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks. I'm halfway through installing all of you people's recommendations. I'm a bit disappointed in the way encryption is handled in matrix. I'm again running into issues. gomuks gives me its fingerprint but element doesn't do that kind of verification any more. Guess I have to try more client until I find one that combines all kinds of verifications and I can get encryption set up and connected between them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The matrix website has an extensive list of matrix clients out there. Idk why this question is still asked when the answer is very easily found.

https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Two of the top answers here are missing from that list and, to be frank, that list does not really contain any useful information. For example, where do I see on that list which clients can display images?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you are an Emacs user, then I suggest you try out Ement.el!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Emacs is such a weird Texteditor i must say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

At this point, it would be insane to classify it as a text editor only. I personally refer to it as the "Emacs distribution"; a distribution that happens to have its own integrated text editor and other useful tools. But a more accurate description is, Emacs is an e-lisp interpreter and because of this it's a very extensible tool!