this post was submitted on 01 Apr 2024
7 points (88.9% liked)

NonCredibleDefense

6629 readers
702 users here now

A community for your defence shitposting needs

Rules

1. Be niceDo not make personal attacks against each other, call for violence against anyone, or intentionally antagonize people in the comment sections.

2. Explain incorrect defense articles and takes

If you want to post a non-credible take, it must be from a "credible" source (news article, politician, or military leader) and must have a comment laying out exactly why it's non-credible. Low-hanging fruit such as random Twitter and YouTube comments belong in the Matrix chat.

3. Content must be relevant

Posts must be about military hardware or international security/defense. This is not the page to fawn over Youtube personalities, simp over political leaders, or discuss other areas of international policy.

4. No racism / hatespeech

No slurs. No advocating for the killing of people or insulting them based on physical, religious, or ideological traits.

5. No politics

We don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, Socialist, Stalinist, Baathist, or some other hot mess. Leave it at the door. This applies to comments as well.

6. No seriousposting

We don't want your uncut war footage, fundraisers, credible news articles, or other such things. The world is already serious enough as it is.

7. No classified material

Classified ‘western’ information is off limits regardless of how "open source" and "easy to find" it is.

8. Source artwork

If you use somebody's art in your post or as your post, the OP must provide a direct link to the art's source in the comment section, or a good reason why this was not possible (such as the artist deleting their account). The source should be a place that the artist themselves uploaded the art. A booru is not a source. A watermark is not a source.

9. No low-effort posts

No egregiously low effort posts. E.g. screenshots, recent reposts, simple reaction & template memes, and images with the punchline in the title. Put these in weekly Matrix chat instead.

10. Don't get us banned

No brigading or harassing other communities. Do not post memes with a "haha people that I hate died… haha" punchline or violating the sh.itjust.works rules (below). This includes content illegal in Canada.

11. No misinformation

NCD exists to make fun of misinformation, not to spread it. Make outlandish claims, but if your take doesn’t show signs of satire or exaggeration it will be removed. Misleading content may result in a ban. Regardless of source, don’t post obvious propaganda or fake news. Double-check facts and don't be an idiot.


Join our Matrix chatroom


Other communities you may be interested in


Banner made by u/Fertility18

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
top 17 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

That's capitalism baby

Wait

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Amazon vs Temu proxy war

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Don't diss my beloved 2 strokes like that, it's probably some cheapo electric cart that has battery life of 7 minutes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

EVs actually make a lot of sense on a battlefield, to be fair.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (3 children)

In what way? I could see the volume being a plus. but cold temps, rough usage, low infrastructure, water immersion all seen very concerning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Cold temps: only where it's cold, can be mitigated through design, mostly only affects range. Diesel ceases to be liquid at cold temperatures, and much engineering has gone into making it and engines that run on it viable in cold weather. Most EV manufacturers have already figured out decent civilian tech solutions to this problem for EVs.

rough usage: EV's have less moving parts, less fluids, can have their parts better sealed against the environment (less need for air cooling overall) and don't "breathe" oxygen like ICE do. It's a lot easier to ruggedize things that move less, and low weight doesn't seem to be a high priority for most military vehicles.

low infrastructure: Logistics wins wars, this is a problem for gas vehicles too, and you either have the supply lines you need, or you don't. EV's make a lot more sense for operations within range of a base, obviously, but a base that can make its own power (either solar or nuclear) that fuels its defensive and patrol vehicles without an oil supply would be slightly more self sufficient. (Which is moot anyway, because humans need food). The military already contends with vulnerable infrastructure as well. This is an example of how fuel (and water) is often stored on US bases.

Water immersion: Yeah, combustion engines hate this too. Motors and battery packs can be sealed, an engine cannot be since it needs to consume air to function.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Also stealthy af and much much higher torque ratios.

Only problem is current SOP for technical vehicles in most modern a armies is to be run and used continuously for days on end without contact with supply lines. If they can create E-Jerry Can modular batteries and some sort of mobile generator refueler then hell yeah. Otherwise liquids strapped to the side of everything is gonna be more effective.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

E-Jerry Can modular batteries

We've already established that weight isn't really an issue so let's just give it two battery racks. It runs off one battery at a time so the other one can be disconnected and changed. When the one in use runs low, throw the breaker over and either change the dead battery or keep running on the aux until that one dies too if you're in an emergency situation.

Larger vehicles with higher power requirements can scale up the number of battery racks they have and still use the universal Grunt Power Brick just in larger quantities, and you can create a battery hauler with a generator and like 40 battery slots to carry around your fresh ones and recharge your empties. That generator might be the one thing in your squadron that still runs on gasoline, supplemented with solar.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's no such thing as needing to disconnect while charging, unless you literally leave the battery behind somewhere. If you have two batteries on board, then you can use them in parallel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Yes but this way you can hot swap in a fully charged battery from your carrier unit without needing to power down the vehicle. You could use both batteries in parallel, but the proposed solution minimizes charging time on any given machine by sourcing it all out to the carrier and allowing constant uptime of the target vehicle by never leaving it with two dead batteries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Low thermal emissions makes hiding from IR much easier. Also, since there isn't exhaust, water immersion would be much easier. But weight and range would be the most difficult. Probably favors hybrids over full EV.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Like the Abrams X, for example.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Quiet and no IR signature. Run electronics for days or weeks without generating IR signatures.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I'm not familiar with an ev that could replace a gas/diesel truck and be used for weeks I'm a similar fashion. That'd be cool though!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Beloved 2 stroke? This shit engine design might as well be called cancer-generator with the amount of oil it burns

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, some are so bad you could probably use their exhaust as fuel with a little work.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Hmm, afterburner for 2-stroke engines 🤔