Maybe they should start sharing some words with Hamas about releasing the hostages and surrendering so that the war can end.
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If you're an American it seems like your choices really are between Biden and his slow genocide or Trump with his quick one.
It doesn't seem like you can really rely on your political leaders to help resolve this conflict in a way that doesn't lead to more suffering and death, only the pace at which it happens. If those are the only two options, I don't blame Muslim and Arab Americans for giving up on Biden.
I think it would just be more honest to acknowledge there's no real support amongst any American political leadership to minimise the suffering of either the Palestinian or Israeli people.
What suffering of the Israelis? They're partying and listening to shitty techno music and getting showered in free American money and weapons.
Palestinians are living in tents and starving. They'd love to be subjected to America's treatment of Israel.
Both Palestinians and Israelis see each other as existential threats. Ignoring this basic reality means there will always be conflict in the region.
Palestinians are suffering en masse right now, I don't think anyone reasonable is denying that.
But what do you think happens if the underlying, justifiable, fear that they each have of the isn't addressed? There will be more massacres and more war, and like in every war, innocent people will pay the price.
Israelis massive victim complex juxtaposed with then acting like Nazi's doesn't somehow make both sides equal.
So what do you propose to stop Israeli aggression towards Palestine?
The next time their music festivals get attacked and people kidnapped they should just be ok with it?
Don't torture,kill and starve Palestinians and force them to live in an open air prison for 70 years and maybe you won't get fucking attacked.
I just hope they vote third party. No reason to support either candidate.
Third party, another, "Let Israel finish the job" vote.
You guys could join us.
I bet you would rather support Biden sending more and more bombs, than stand with us and say no.
Okay, "us." Which specific candidate should we vote for that has a legitimate chance of beating both Trump and Biden?
Because "vote third party" will not beat Trump or Biden even if you wish really hard.
If people actually worked at it we could get anyone.
I like Whitmer and I think we could convince her to run
So you believe that a person who has not even been convinced to run yet is the person we should vote for that has a legitimate chance of beating both Trump and Biden?
You honestly believe that?
I prefer to aim high and miss than aim low and hit.
I did that with a president and an ex wife, both were horrible decisions.
Trump is an asshole for sure, but I have faith in the democrats doing like they did last time and fucking up as much as possible.
At least the Cheeto says what he means.
Biden talks out the side of his mouth because he’s too busy gobbling Netanyahu’s balls with the rest.
Besides i believe we deserve to suffer if trump gets elected, maybe we will learn this time about ignoring huge swaths of your supporters.
You are a fucking shill for trump. “Says what he means”??? Hahah you cultist dipshit. He wants your money. That’s it.
Holy shit bro, are you deliberately ignoring the context here?
Fuck the Cheeto and fuck Biden both, they both just want to kill brown people and that’s it.
The only difference is Big Mac says what he means.
The day that one of these two die is buried is the day the world gets a new urinal.
C’mon Bro try harder.
Also quote what I say in your comment, once we get too far into a thread I just have to click into your post history to find it.
Try harder? You try harder. All you are doing is hedging bets and offering critique without solutions. For all your ponticating about shit ‘you know to be true’ you sure sound like you are devoid of some much needed culture. How long have you spent out of your sounthern village of 1500; when all you can come up with for an insult on California is “hippie shit”? It’s not lost on me that American politics is a sham. Frankly I think that’s really an aside here. You say trump says what he means and the worst insult you have for him is “Cheeto”. Meanwhile almost every comment you have about Biden starts with “fucking” and the dives into some watered down hyperbolic Fox News talking points. He is a war monger. Biden I mean. But you shilling for the con- Everyman because you have an abbreviated view of the world is embarrassing cause that asshole Is also a war monger. I happen to agree that they both want to kill brown people, that’s why I don’t make excuses for either of them. You do. Not only that but your need to interject with things like who’s a better or worst activist is moot cause tho you talk some shit, you are just sitting around on your ass proclaiming all-it-is-you-believe-to-be-true into your echo chamber. Try harder??? Get fucked. Your privilege is leaking. Also it’s so rich telling me to try harder when you are the one that first called me an asshole. I guess I would rather be that than some closeted sycophant who’s idea of activism stems from standing up for smoked meats and leaf blowers.
I just hate him so much.
Everyone knew what trump was he was free and clear about his hatred and xenophobia.
Biden, I fell for. I thought he was going to be good, not great, but not just “not trump” then he did the railroad strike that way, but he eventually got them what they wanted.
Yeah it took a little longer, but lives weren’t really at stake over a few weeks on that one.
Then he did this shit, and now I hate him in the way that you can only hate someone who has betrayed you. My loyalty was shattered, so yeah, at least trump let me know he was a racist piece of shit. Hillary was my “Not Trump” vote.
One is just an obvious grifter and conman, the other is the same but he fooled me as well.
"Take that, face!" says man cutting off own nose.
The nose is getting cut off by either candidate in this situation. Biden has pulled strings we all wish would’ve been pulled for something like saving the student debt foregivness but instead he did it to continue supplying and funding a genocide.
Trump will do it so much better then, he'll tell the Israelis to finish what they started and give them more kaboom.
How about we focus on stopping genocide. If you live outside the ~5 states that decide the election then you should be voting for a third party.
It's a good thing the Donald Trump who moved the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem totally wouldn't support Israeli genocide, isn't it?
Clearly Donald trump wont be any better and that clearly wasn’t my point. To people who are trying to stop this genocide going “The other guys isn’t going to be any better” instead of also trying to stop the genocide isn’t going to convince them to come to your side.
Surly trump will do better, right guys?
We need to stop paying attention to what the Biden government says, and pay absolute attention to what they do! They're speaking out of both sides of their mouth, FFS!