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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

I cannot trust any publication that "reviews" a product like this without taking at least a little time to go over the legitimately harmful business practices against the customer.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But also one of the worst options in terms of privacy.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't care how cheap it is or how amazing it allegedly is. I clawed my identity back from Zuckerberg, and I don't intend to go back to that abusive relationship.

If that means I can't afford VR, then so be it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

500 would be the price for higher end WMR headsets. Most popular would be the HP Reverb

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

500 not even on sale. It often goes for $350 these days.

Honestly, it's a steal. The reverb G2 is really good, easily used with Valve Index controllers.

In the long run though, anyone currently interested should probably wait for Valves next release. Then you can decide if MS-lock is worth it, it can certainly be frustrating at times being locked to Windows.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

yeah i only put 500 as its the MSRP, its actually lower than that. more of the point is, if someones claiming that 500$ is expensive because its a meta product, they weren't even intending to go into VR, as the HP Reverb, and what it sort of replaced before that, the Samsung Oddessey+, were sub 500 for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Sounds cool... Oh it's Meta, fuck Zuck

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Realised it's not that cheap, US$500? Feels like it's at a price point where I could spend a couple of hundred more and not get Meta involved. Made more sense when it was US$300.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have the PSVR2 which is comparably priced but requires a PS5 console. You have the Valve Index which is $1k.

So, it may not be "cheap" but it's definitely cheaper than some of the alternatives.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yea, but the cost of having FB acquire your data doesn't feel so... worth it? I'm not completely privacy-focused like many on the fediverse but I do view it as a trade-off, and at US$500 the trade-off no longer feels warranted.

Was thinking about the HP Reverb G2, it's a little more expensive than the Quest 3, last I checked.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Privacy isn't normally my primary concern but with VR I find it to be a bigger deal than I usually would, particularly because the headsets can hypothetically gather data about what you're looking at exactly (especially once eye tracking becomes more of a thing - then it'll be exact, and that's kinda terrifying at that point).

And this is Meta/facebook, so. They'll 100% do it and say they aren't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And they probably scan your surroundings and upload it to the cloud. Only thing creepier would be Amazon making the same thing and then sending you ads for stuff that goes with whatever they saw you had or replacements for old stuff you have.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It’s worth mentioning that for folks who VR socially, the proliferation of the Meta hardware is a privacy concern regardless of whether one personally uses the device. There’s a fucking reason Meta subsidizes the damn things.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This meaning that glasses wearers will be able to use the headset from the off without having to buy extra spacers

Finally! Now if only they’d support a wider ipd

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can't you just make a fake Meta profile?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If you do only buy something like virtual desktop or use some streaming-from-desktop software and buy/run your games on PC

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A fake meta profile for your games attached to it. Meta also has asked for ID confirmations, so you better either be okay with risking it or losing access to your account and your investment.