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Should we post here or reddit? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I thought r/piracy was dead but I see is very active, I don't know if mods changed or something though. Where do you guys think is best to ask questions?

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 7 months ago (1 children)

r/piracy is mainly active with 3 things

Memes
Random questions
Drama

I, personally, never ask questions on that subreddit. Only viewing for random entertainment or boredness.

Both Piracy and PiratedGames subreddit are the 3 above. If you ask a particular question, you’ll often get randomly ridiculed (for nothing).

I’d just say - post it here and if that really doesn’t work out then try it there. Though out of personal experience this community on here is much (much) more friendly, willing to help and actually get to the point.

This community also had actual discussions and not random shit throwing in the community.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

wow, I was kind of expecting this to be an exaggeration but you are right. I just checked over there and it's just memes, news articles, and arguing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Always has been...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

There is a workaround in search: -flair:humor Get rid of all these meme posts

[–] [email protected] 57 points 7 months ago

Fuck reddit.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago

Are lemmy and reddit mutually exclusive? Try whichever you prefer first, and then the other one, if it doesn't work.

I will not go back there, but I'm also not gonna get all judgemental on you if you do.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’m inclined to say screw Reddit. Lemmy may be less private overall but at least we have more control over things in the Fedi.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

How is it "less" private? Because the API isn't a paywall, sure. But... I don't know what's your perspective, really.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Probably along the lines of federated user activity, so things like upvotes/downvotes etc and subscriptions to a community being federated to the relevant server(s)

So even if you're lurking just voting on content, someone could setup a lemmy server, sub to a bunch of communities, and theoretically look at incoming activitypub updates from those communities for your activity I think

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Assuming that is really an issue (depends on who you are, what you're doing, and the motivation of the actor mounting such spying infrastructure), how is it any different on Reddit? First, being closed source and everything, we can't rule out that easier and large scale logging isn't already implemented. Secondly, such actor would probably just pay the API and scrape the same data if not with more details. It would also get extra metadata from brokers, etc.

Ultimately, if you want privacy, I agree that federation is undesired. That's why there are Lemmy instances that block all other instances by default. AFAIK those were from right extremists and pesos, at least judging by the name of their URLs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The difference here is that on Reddit, only 1 party has access to your info. On Lemmy, it's any party who has an instance that federates with yours.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well, on Reddit any party can pay the API prices that are needed to scrape data. So, the paywall. I guess it's some measure... But if you are being tracked by such an actor, your threat model can't really include reddit... It's defeating the purpose. All this is discussion on air.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Reddit doesn't provide nearly the same level of granular data that Lemmy does via the API or any publicly available channels. While we can't verify whether stuff like upvote data is sent or sold to data brokers, we do know that Lemmy, by design, gives it to literally anyone who wants it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

On one hand everyone can access it, on the other, 1 party can sell it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't think it sends info about subscriptions and voter identities to other servers, or am I wrong?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You up voted "how did "step" porn become so popular when we did such a good job keeping scat and insest porn out of the mainstream for so long" and "I didn't forget your birthday either."

And down voted "seamless seeking"

I can say you're not subscribed to the like two communities on my instance. Subscription (follows) mostly only go to the instance hosting the community in question. Voting goes everywhere though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I tried to look more into this and I guess that everything goes out identifiable in some way.

And down voted "seamless seeking"

I looked up what that post is, and it ain't downvoted. Might have accidentally hit it, and then un-disliked, without that getting federated.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Oh yes, that's an issue with Lemmy. Edits don't get federated, they stay on the instance. I didn't knew but it makes sense that it's the same with votes.

I believe the issue is that to keep every updated you'd need a far more complex system, like streaming the changes or CRDTs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Nice

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

The others in this comment thread have covered the potential threat vector fairly thoroughly. It’s not something I’m particularly worried about at the moment, but it is something that I try to keep awareness of for the future.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago

Here, and FUCK SPEZ. Reddit and Xitter will go like Digg.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

Rhetorical question, right?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

Here.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago

What's a reddit?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Here. I can't speak for others, but I don't regularly visit Reddit anymore. My client has been done, so from my phone it never happens anymore. On PC I'm only using it when I want to read something there from a search result or by a link, and even then I'm using it through libreddit, which is annoying because reddit often rate limits the public instances.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Here, spez can suck a dick

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Questions over there might get removed IMO, last time I checked out of curiosity it was full of memes and very little discussion. Could be different now 🤷‍♂️ but personally i'm staying on Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Fuck reddit. I always read through the posts on here, I just don't comment if I have nothing to add.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Here.

Reddit, and any centralization, is intrinsically dangerous to piracy.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Here.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

whatever is your preference. if you want your post to reach more people reddit might be your answer. if you just hate the way reddit is but you are okay with decent (or zero) interactions sometimes, lemmy can be your alternative.